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Dropbox Takes Blame For Cloud Outage

Post-mortem analysis says Friday's cloud service outage was caused by bad script in routine maintenance update.
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jemison288
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jemison288,
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1/15/2014 | 1:43:01 PM
Re: Really? Has anyone looked at Amazon's outage history?
You can't compare Dropbox's internal database servers with Amazon running Infrastructure-as-a-Service for thousands (tens? hundreds? of thousands) of customers. They're not equivalent; Dropbox's internal database servers shouldn't go down like they did.  Amazon has *never* had an internal database failure like Dropbox had here, and Amazon does a heck of a lot more than Dropbox does.


Running database servers so they don't go down is a well-understood and known problem.  Running patches on production servers is verbotem and shouldn't happen.  This is reminiscent of Dropbox's security issues (allowing anyone to access anyone else's account for more than 4 hours; employees putting Dropbox customer information into an employee Dropbox); it makes it look like Dropbox has a lazy culture toward security and operational integrity.
Stratustician
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Stratustician,
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1/15/2014 | 11:38:38 AM
Really? Has anyone looked at Amazon's outage history?
In all fairness, as a service, Dropbox has been pretty reliable.  Sure, it's suffered from the odd glitch, but the reality is that these technologies are still managed by humans, and we make errors.  I'd understand if a) you were running critical databases in Dropbox (hopefully not) or b) it was a paid service (most of us using the free version).

Let's compare it to the wonderful track record of the Amazon AWS folks.  Suddenly Dropbox doesn't seem too bad, does it?

Good for Dropbox to be upfront with the cause. For users to call them stupid is overreacting a bit I think, mistakes happen. Show me someone who hasn't accidentally glitched something and I'll happily tip my hat to their pure awesomeness.
Charlie Babcock
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Charlie Babcock,
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1/14/2014 | 3:19:45 PM
Dropbox damage should have been limited, wasn't
In response to Number 6, I would have to agree that DropBox has a good record, but if you look at the Twitter comments on the outage, you can see doubt creeping into some of its users' confidence in their offsite storage supplier. And on one important point, the explanation for the outage is not an explanation. The updating of the operating system in some database master/slave combinations resulted in all three systems being lost. They then had to be reconstructed from backup, as I read the explanation. Any one who reads this differently is welcome to explain a different interpretation. But my position is, this isn't supposed to happen in the cloud. The cloud software allows for, and compensates for the failure of any one component and the service as a whole keeps running. The damage from what went wrong at Dropbox should have been contained, but it wasn't.  
avaya
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avaya,
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1/14/2014 | 3:19:22 PM
Re: Responsibility, yes, but not transparency
I gotta agree with your assesment.
avaya
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avaya,
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1/14/2014 | 3:18:15 PM
Re: Responsibility, yes, but not transparency
All your files are just one subtle bug away :). The postmortem explanation is not through and internal controls seem to be lacking. Overwriting a production server or handful of servers doesnt happen even in rookie tech firms.

Also, it is hard to believe the pranksters timed the hoax perfectly.  How do they know the unplanned maintenance schedule or is it pure coincidence? Many unanswered questions here.

 
pat.white
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pat.white,
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1/14/2014 | 2:44:16 PM
Re: Responsibility, yes, but not transparency
I'd actually offer, in the industry Dropbox is known for being extremely cautious and thorough. They make very slow, deliberate updates to their products when things are perfect. This seems a bit out of character for them, and I personally wonder if they're feeling pressure to move faster as the competition with Box heats up.
Number 6
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1/14/2014 | 2:23:22 PM
Shocking! Dropbox Not Perfect!
"Some may be wondering whether Dropbox has the operational smarts to be relied upon for the long term."

As opposed to all those other suppliers upon which we rely that have never, ever committed a mistake in their existence? 

And "Some?" Who exactly has raised this question? It's easy to write "some say" followed by an overly broad assertion made only by the author without backing it up (pun not intended).
cbabcock
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1/14/2014 | 1:06:01 PM
Responsibility, yes, but not transparency
Dropbox is taking responsibilty here for a human programming error, but the explanation falls well short of transparency.
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