Hal Zesch and Nayaki Nayyar were born in different countries, but they now have the same employer and their kids go to the same school. They also share similar views on the value of education, parental responsibility, and what it will take for the U.S. to keep from losing its leadership in IT and the wider global economy.
Zesch is CIO and Nayyar is VP, enterprise architecture, at Valero Energy, a $70 billion-a-year fuel refiner, distributor, and retailer based in San Antonio, Texas. Zesch was born in the U.S., went to school at the University of Texas in Austin, and has spent the last 30 years, most of his career, at Valero. Nayyar was raised in India, where she earned a bachelor's degree in engineering, and she came to the United States in 1993 to earn her graduate degree. She has worked for Valero for the past 10 years, now one of many foreign-born employees in Valero's 349-strong IT department.
"If you look at our IT area over the last five years, by no means all but a majority of our best technical people were not born in the United States," Zesch says. "If those people had not been available, we would have been in serious trouble."
Zesch laments that not enough U.S.-born students are taking "the tough courses" and pursuing careers in engineering and science. Instead they are studying to be "lawyers and sports medicine specialists," he groans.
It may be a chicken-and-egg question, but college and university professors in the U.S. will tell you that American students (and their parents) are steering clear of computer science and other science, technology, engineering, and math studies, in part for fear that those jobs are being outsourced to India and China. Zesch isn't the first to call that mentality a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Zesch worries that tougher U.S. immigration policies and growing opportunities abroad will draw foreign-born IT talent back home. Nayyar has witnessed the trend firsthand.
"There were 60 students in my undergraduate class in India, and 50 of us came to the United States for higher education," she says. "Just recently I took a poll among old classmates, and I discovered that at least 30 have gone back to India."
In some cases, classmates returned to take care of aging parents. Some missed the Indian culture. But what's making it easier for many immigrants to return is the rise of job opportunities back home.
"In the early '90s when my classmates and I came to the United States, we had a dream," Nayyar says. "We called it the American dream, where you'd get a job in a multinational company, you'd get good compensation, and have a house. It seems that somewhere along the way, more and more of my classmates figured they could pursue that dream back home."
Noting changes in immigration policy, Nayyar says it took her less than two years to obtain a green card in the 1990s, but candidates now face an expensive, five- to eight-year legal struggle that keeps them in limbo. They aren't inclined to settle down, buy houses, and raise families in this country until they're sure that they can stay.
From Zesch's perspective, U.S. immigration policy seems more focused on what immigrants might demand from this country--as if they're all destined to go on welfare--rather than the intellectual contribution they can make to this country, such as offering advanced technical or scientific expertise. "Our doors should be wide open to these advanced engineers and scientists of the future, incenting them to come here and stay here," he says.
5 Top Federal Initiatives For 2015As InformationWeek Government readers were busy firming up their fiscal year 2015 budgets, we asked them to rate more than 30 IT initiatives in terms of importance and current leadership focus. No surprise, among more than 30 options, security is No. 1. After that, things get less predictable.