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The Sorry State Of IT Education
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DDURBIN1
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DDURBIN1,
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4/22/2014 | 11:52:28 AM
Re: Short Term Career

@proberts551, Age discrimination is not just in the IT profession although IT was the first to be attacked beginning in the early nineties when the wealthy convinced government to issue H1-B visas, used for the most part to displace aging IT workers under the disguise of filling the technology skill shortages gap.  Now after 20 years the process of displacing older workers with H1-B workers continues under the same disguise of filling skill shortages.  You would think that after 20 years corporations would have placed skills education for existing IT personnel high on their investment list by now but it's still much easier to just buy what you need when you need it and that includes buying younger people over older ones.

DDURBIN1
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DDURBIN1,
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4/22/2014 | 11:21:18 AM
Re: Forcing education
@tomskaczmarek, Your attitude toward business technology is typical, basically about as important to the business as a stapler.  However companies that implement a Cisco infrastucture are not doing it for the IT.  Companies that implement an ERP system are not doing it for the IT.  Companies that implement a VOIP system aren't doing it for the IT.  Companies that implement BI or Big Data are not doing it for the IT.  Companies creating a mobile App aren't doing it for the IT. Companies that implement EDI are not doing it for the IT.  Companies that implement ANY business techology are NOT DOING IT FOR THE IT.  They are doing IT for the business.
tomskaczmarek
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tomskaczmarek,
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4/22/2014 | 10:59:34 AM
Re: Forcing education
DDURBIN1, we live in a world of specialization. Companies are forced through competition to concentrate and invest in the core business. For most of the Fortune 2000 companies, the core business is not information technology. While many companies realize that the application of IT can be a business benefit, the focus is on the strategic application of IT in the core business functions, not the technology. This devaluates the knowledge of technology and raises the value on the knowledge of how the business can use the technology in core business functions.

In the example, the Cisco infrastructure is not core business to most companies. It is the core business to Cisco and companies that provide the specialized service of implementing such technology. Employees interested in a deeper knowledge of technology may have to react to the business climate and seek employment at companies that have technology as their core business.
DDURBIN1
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DDURBIN1,
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4/22/2014 | 10:21:51 AM
Re: Forcing education
Show me a business doing real long term planning with real execution according to the plan and you might find one understanding your point.  Unfortunately the over whelming major of fortune 2000 companies do limited long term planning (generally for financial purposes only) followed by a steam of primarily tactical execution that may or may not follow the plan.  Everything is done with short term thinking and short term results.  They only know what they want just a few moments before they need it.  This allows no time for present IT personnel to keep up even on their own.  For example, if a company decides to implement a Cisco communication infrastructure it is easier, cheaper, and faster to "buy" certified Cisco personnel than create them in the time frame between decision and execution.  Sadly, this typical business technology acquisition process devalues existing IT personnel so companies are very much less likely to invest in them or care about them for that matter.  None of the other areas of the business are treated in this manner, not Purchasing, not Sales, not Accounting, not Engineering, none.  Ever see an H1-B visa for a Buyer or CPA?  Maybe if we eliminated the H1-B visa for IT jobs, applied to IT for over 20 years now, corporations will do better long term planning and get back to investing in people again instead of buying what they need when they need it.
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KoletteS710,
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4/22/2014 | 8:37:10 AM
Re: This seems the complete opposite of reality
KEvin-

 

Link, please? I watch a lot of "Eli the Computer Guy" at work, but im always up for more things to watch. 

 

I did find a series of videos by NetWorkKing, but im not sure if they are the same as the ones that you described. 
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proberts551,
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4/22/2014 | 8:32:42 AM
Re: Short Term Career
I agree with every word 100%  Age discrimination is rampant.  People are not Human beings, but merely workers.  I was taught quality over quantity.  The reason is because if you put quality in to a product, or even to the staff you hire,  you will get a better overall experience, and result.  Nowdays you are a comodity to be used, a human resource, not personell.  I grew up in a world when people actually cared about more than just money, and how cheap and how fast to get a job done. 
KevinC353
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KevinC353,
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4/22/2014 | 3:42:39 AM
This seems the complete opposite of reality
"Almost every profession requires its members to engage in continuing education. Not IT."

I barely ever see those in business management roles engaging in continuing education. However, a vast majority of my colleagues in the IT industry are ALWAYS studying and learning new technologies or gathering new skill sets. It's impossible to continue in the field if you aren't always learning and willing to adapt. The nature of the field is that a few years down the road everything will change. If your IT pros aren't willing to take advantage of employer provided assistance(which should be available for any company that wants a real IT pro), they're going to be passed by in a short span of time.

Also the idea that individuals in IT tend to garner most of their knowledge by word of mouth from other IT colleagues is accurate for the industry a decade ago, but not as relevent in this day and age. We are in an age where vast amounts of information are at your fingertips. If I needed assistance on new products or troubleshooting, I could find thousands of blogs, forum posts and reference manuals with a simple Google search. Why would you limit your available pool of resources to one individual?

A few years ago it was difficult to consider funding many of the very expensive training classes geared towards working IT professionals. Yet very recently I have noticed a big jump in free and reduced cost training options. VMware started offering their required class at various local community colleges around the US(Savings of nearly $4k), I myself am currently brushing up on my networking skills in an 84-part Youtube CCNA class(free) and am registered for a free Linux course by Edx later this year.

I agree that one of the most important skills for any employee is the ability to adapt, but I see that as a much smaller problem in the IT sector versus general business operations roles. Can you imagine a world where we threw out Excel in two years? Could the average worker adapt fast enough?

Edit: I wanted to add my sincere belief that the hiring process for IT will start to revert back to the Jack-of-all-trades mentality from decades ago. As we start to break down the Silo mentality and implement more and more GUI administration and orchestration, one quality individual will start to take over tasks that have recently been divided into specific expert roles. Lose the Silo>Lose the Specialists. 
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4/21/2014 | 5:52:46 PM
Re: Forcing education
All of those other professions also have accreditation boards, professional associations, state licensing, etc., who actually administer those continuing education programs, and association membership, board certification, and state licensing is a requirement to maintain employment in those professions.

Do we need to be forced to get continuing education. I certainly hope it never comes to that point; but there's no doubt that we need continuing education. We also need the awareness of our employers that continuing education is a necessary part of the job. It's no problem telling the Managing Partner of a law firm, or the Chief Administrator of a hospital that their staff lawyers and doctors need time to engage in education -- that's a de facto nature of employment in those fields. Unfortunately it's a very big problem to convince employers of IT pros that this is necessary. As pointed out elsewhere, not only is this a problem in itself, but business owners have become loathe to invest in IT pros in any form or fashion, the conventional wisdom being that they can just "buy it" when needed. That may be true today, while demand is fairly low; but when the price of those resources quadruple because there's a shortage of qualified people in the industry, it will be those very same business owners who come out on the short end of the stick. (Well, and those undertrained IT pros who can no longer find relevant employment in the industry.)

If you don't have continuing education, you won't stay relevant.

That's actually relevant itself. If the employer an IT pro works for is oblivious to the currency of the skill set of that IT pro staff member, it's not just the IT pro that's falling behind, it's also the employer. If the employer cannot be assured of implementing technology in a manner and form needed, because the staff members entrusted to do that are clueless about said technologies, then the employer is also at risk. To my point above, when buying the skills on the demand-market exceed the financial resources of that business, the business also becomes irrelevant.

The purpose of this article isn't to remind IT pros about what they should already know -- that failing to keep current can be a career-ending move -- but to remind employers that failing to create and maintain a work environment that facilitates and encourages the ability of that IT pro to stay current can also be a business-ending move.

 
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PaulS681,
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4/21/2014 | 5:38:41 PM
Forcing education
"Almost every profession requires its members to engage in continuing education. Not IT."

Regarding the snippet above from the article, I don't see that as an issue at all. Do we need to be forced to get continuing education? If you don't you will not stay relevant, isn't that enough?
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PaulS681,
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4/21/2014 | 5:33:42 PM
Re: Education or Skills
Excellent point proberts551...  You will get out what you put in to it, no matter how you get the training. IT is a demanding field that requires constant education.
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