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Google Self-Driving Cars Get Smarter
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Thomas Claburn
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4/28/2014 | 3:32:44 PM
Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
So what do people think about sharing the road with robotic cars? Is frustration the price of safety?
Laurianne
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4/28/2014 | 4:02:46 PM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
The point about teaching people to behave around these cars is a good one. Not easy for Google to solve.
Shane M. O'Neill
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4/28/2014 | 6:25:53 PM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
Google self-driving cars will only make sense in most parts of Florida, where everybody drives under 45 mph. ;)

But the rest of the country? Fuhget about it. It'll get ugly fast with vandals and road rage incidents. I would actually get annoyed being the passenger in a yield-to-everything self-driving car. My urge to drive more aggressively -- but sensibly -- would overtake me.
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4/28/2014 | 10:39:54 PM
Commuting is a waste of life.
"I would actually get annoyed being the passenger in a yield-to-everything self-driving car."

People will be too busy browsing the Internet, playing games, watching a movie, etc. while relaxing in the vehicle. Commuting is a waste of life.
jgherbert
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4/30/2014 | 12:36:25 AM
Re: Commuting is a waste of life.

"People will be too busy browsing the Internet, playing games, watching a movie, etc. while relaxing in the vehicle. Commuting is a waste of life."

 

Yes, it is. I think it will be a while though before we relax in these vehicles. As a driver I am often uncomfortable as a passenger because other drivers don't drive the way I do (they make different decisions, move the car differently, have different margins of safety, etc.) Others have said though that letting the car drive itself is a huge control issue. 

SaneIT
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4/29/2014 | 7:38:26 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
Being in Central FL I'm laughing and cringing at the same time.  I remember when I first moved down here and someone freaked out because I moved as soon as the light turned green.  They were afraid that we were going to get hit because "everyone" runs red lights.  I've realized how true this is in some areas now and always give a look before crossing an intersection right after a light change.  I'm of the opinion that some people around here should be forced to buy a robot driven car because they don't belong on the road otherwise.  
Ariella
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4/29/2014 | 9:39:04 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
@SaneIT If that's the practice in your area, I'd think the town would want to put up those cameras -- guaranteed revenue! As for self-driving cars, I agree, they would likely be an improvement on many of the drivers currently on the road.
Drew Conry-Murray
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4/29/2014 | 10:58:44 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
I'm not interested in having a self-driving car, but I imagine my kids might like it. It would be an easy transition from being driven around by parents to being driven around by computer, leaving them free to read, text, space out, whatever.

Also, I could see self-driving cars being popular with older people who might not qualify for a license but still want to get out for Dr. visits, socializing, etc.
Ariella
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4/29/2014 | 11:20:25 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
@Drew yes, it would be great for kids or even adults who are nervous about driving.
NJ Mike
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4/29/2014 | 3:43:09 PM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
The same older people who can't figure out how to use a cell phone?
SaneIT
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4/30/2014 | 8:33:15 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
We do have some in the busier area but since it is the older population with slow reflexes who do things like run through lights late there's less emphasis put on the cameras than you might see if it was younger groups racing through them.  Everyone jokes about being hit by some little old lady that can't see over the wheel but a camera isn't going to stop that.  There is an area where there is a lot of pedestrian traffic, they have speed bumps that pop up out of the ground when people are crossing, flashing lights everywhere and red light cameras, but people still get hit crossing the road there.  I'd love to see robot cars for anyone over 80.
Fusud
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4/29/2014 | 1:53:32 AM
Re: Teaching people to behave around the cars?
I suggest inbuilt cctv plus responsive car rage technology...
Gary_EL
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4/28/2014 | 11:31:24 PM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
When the day comes that I can allow my blood alcohol reading to rise to a happy level and tell the car to take me home with out fear of a DUI, I'll be interested. Until then, meh.
RobPreston
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4/29/2014 | 2:37:40 PM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
Wow, this is really moving from the realm of sci-fi to reality. Jeff Bezos's vision for drones today is where driverless cars were just two years ago: Will never happen. Perceptions change fast as the technology evolves.
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4/30/2014 | 9:43:59 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
The idea of self driving cars is all very great but I still believe that it will never be entirely practical. No matter how hard Google try and no matter how many test drives they take, it is simply not possible to prepare the car for all possible types of encounters that may take place on the road. Some of these need a working human brain to handle without making mistakes. I therefore believe that a more practical model would be to come up with a self-driving car that can also be controlled by human beings so that in situations such as the one above the human driver can make a judgment call and save the day.
ANON1238599654540
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5/1/2014 | 11:32:52 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
These would be the same human brains that regularly make poor decisions and cause accidents?  Even in a scenario where there is a tail percentage of situations in which the car does not make the right decision, the total number of accidents would still likely go down.  However, addressing liability for those remaining accidents will be interesting.
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5/29/2014 | 11:05:01 AM
Re: Do you want self-driving cars on the road with you?
Ugh....if they replace taxis in an uber city context in lieu of some other public transportation, fine.  Why is it that these initiatives are sold to us under safety, like the 55 mph speed limit (which has been completely debunked by years of statistics)?  What happens if something not programed into the system occurs like a major weather event, car jacking, or terrorist event, or you forgot your wallet?   Thank you, I still like making my own choices.  Feel free to give me more information to make those choices however.
YaarovS134
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4/28/2014 | 5:41:22 PM
I want a free android app or iphone app
that warns me when I'm near a google car.
gwill2k
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4/29/2014 | 5:47:33 AM
Less is More

They are doing this so they don't have to pay people to take pictures of your back yard. Driverless cars roaming the Earth taking pictures all day, every day. We don't need more cars on the road. Can we get a high speed mass transit system? One that travels @ 100s of mph? Driverless @ 60mph is still too slow to revolutionize anything

 
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4/29/2014 | 4:11:03 PM
Food for thought
The hostility against tech companies in SF aside (due 100% to socio-economic differences) let's imagine a world where self driving cars are the norm.  Just how will the legal industry adapt when there won't be an easy target to blame for fenderbenders.  
Drew Conry-Murray
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4/29/2014 | 4:21:38 PM
Re: Food for thought
Re: Lawyers. That's easy, they'll just sue Google. And I see a very lucrative market for expert witnesses who can read logs.
Maxwell baron
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5/29/2014 | 9:30:08 AM
Re: Food for thought
Self driving car is a very interesting and amazing thing for everybody, these type of cars are preferred by the people but how can it perform is important. In this type of car, they add the new technology and features for the better use, safety is the most necessary thing for this car.

BMW Repair Calabasas
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4/29/2014 | 9:09:31 PM
How will people be trained to be proper?
Behaving with a degree of propriety has been on the wane for the past several decades.  

I mean would you ever fly in an airlplane that is on autopilot at 30,000 feet?  What are those pilots there for anyway?  The passengers would never stand for it.

Plus, why would anyone want to buy bread made in some factory somewhere when they can do it at home with flour, water, eggs and yeast?  
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4/30/2014 | 12:41:46 AM
Re: How will people be trained to be proper?

"Behaving with a degree of propriety has been on the wane for the past several decades."

 

(etc.)

Amusing answer ;-) I think that trust will be the biggest factor initially, and having 1 Google Car per 10,000 on the roads makes its behavior an oddity and thus a target. Make it 1 in 10, and now it starts changing road behavior in bulk.

It's a bit like these cars that can travel in convoy on highways using computer-controlled adaptive cruise control. Hooray, so long as every car involved supports that technology. It's a bit tricker when you have to mix the old and the new in the same place.

kuqiqogaros
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4/30/2014 | 2:48:50 PM
Driverless cars
They contest it is better in some ways, and I think they may well be right. Humans lack the ability to concentrate for any real length of time, and repetitive tasks ease us into mindlessness. Computers can hold speed and distance with far more accuracy than a human, never gets bored or angry or drunk and can recognise patterns. The patterns are actually there in the highway code.

My one question is this - Would the passengers be liable for any accidents? Would Google be liable? It seems like a mess. I have a good driving record and enjoy pretty cheap insurance rates ($26/month from Insurance Panda.. woohoo!). I also enjoy taking my car out for a spin and enjoying the 'freedom' of being able to drive anywhere. Will the driverless car allow all this? If not, I'll have to pass.

IMO.. Until they can ensure that there are no humans taking control of the wheel, insurance will be needed... at least uninsured motorist. Who knows? Maybe insurance as we know it will go away, replaced by any number of models that would more accurately represent the new risk distribution.
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4/30/2014 | 3:06:48 PM
Re: Driverless cars
I bike a lot, and I see how enraged a very few drivers get if they need to slow down for 15 or 30 seconds navigating alongside bicycles. Add to the mix a driverless car that's being extra careful around those cyclists, we're talking purple rage.
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5/3/2014 | 10:34:00 PM
Re: Driverless cars
If all cars become driverless, more safety and much less accidents should be expected. But it really depends on how reliable the system is - even for manual driven car nowadays, we still have problems/defects from time to time, which needs retrofit. Furthermore, the transition period will not be easy. Imagine the mix of manual-driven and driverless cars on the road - will it create more problems? If an accident happened between manual driven one and driverless one, how the responsibility should be decided?
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5/29/2014 | 12:41:06 PM
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