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Firefox 29 Debuts, With Mozilla In Turmoil
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AsokS489
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AsokS489,
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7/6/2014 | 11:25:19 PM
I'm done with firefox
I've just been FED UP with FF because of all of the memory leaks, etc. I've been running v16 forever because whenever I've tried to upgrade to newer versions, they'd all pretty much just crash after 30 minutes of heavy use, and not a single version of FF that I've ever used has ever fixed the memory leak problems. Not a single one.

I actually installed a tiny batch file on quicklaunch so I could quickly kill FF at the point it's consumed all of my RAM so I could then start over with "Restore Session" to automatically reload all of my previous tabs. After trying every "solution" to the leak problem, that's the only one that ever did me any good. Apparently the arrogant tards at mozilla would rather tweak the UI to death rather than make a browser that actually works. They're worse than even Microsoft because Microsoft has to listen to their customers sooner or later or go broke, whereas nonprofits can just drift along forever.

At any rate, I just finished installing PM, including importing everything from FF with their little importer program, and everything went flawlessly, including all settings and the plethora of add-ons I use. The only difficulty was getting roboform attached, which I can't live without. I did finally dumb around and got the roboform taskbar program to attach roboform to PM, which then worked flawlessly. It is, however, necessary for the roboform taskbar program to run all the time for roboform to continue to work on PM, but this is a very small price to pay to ditch FF forever.

I've used PM for a week now, opening/closing/keeping hundreds of tabs a day, and I've been stunned at how much faster PM is than FF, as well as the VERY small memory footprint occupied by PM vs FF. Even after a week's HEAVY usage, PM has not grown beyond 1 GB, and even better, when I close tabs, ALL of the RAM is given back.

Basically, PM is what FF ought to be. Even better, the genius behind Pale Moon, Mark Straver, has committed to keeping the PM UI fundamentally unmolested. I'll be installing PM instead of FF on all of my client's computers in the future as well!

(BTW, ALL of the "recommended fixes" for the firefox memory leak problems are a sick joke. Not one of them works. And plugins DO NOT cause the memory leaks! Firefox does! How do I know? Because I switched to Pale Moon, importing everything EXACTLY like it was in Firefox and guess what? No memory leaks in Pale Moon! Oh, and I use Adblock Plus, Flash, Java, DoNotTrackMe, BetterPrivacy CookieCuller, DownloadHelper, Element Hiding Helper, IE View, ViewAbout, Visited, and roboform. So NONE of those is causing the firefox memory leak problems!)
moarsauce123
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moarsauce123,
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5/1/2014 | 7:24:27 PM
Waiting for version 30
OK, FF29 is here and it leaks as much memory as all the other versions before even with just a few tabs open to ultimately crash. At least Firefox has decent crash recovery. Rather than plug the memory leaks and add stability we yet again get a hiddeous UI that makes incredibly bad use of the available space. Not sure why the status bar gt killed and everything is crammed into the tool bar.

And then the Mozillas wonder why they lose market share. OK, I explain it to you again! STOP MUCKING WITH THE UI AND FINALLY FIX THE MEMORY LEAKS!!!!! Geez, sorry, but the FF UI as it was before was the least problem anyone had with FF. Does the FF development team only consist of mainly UI designers and a few mediocre coders?

I would go with Chrome, but I do like some UI with my browser (yes, more than one button that has everything hidden behind it) and I do not want to share everything with Google. Although, the mobile device emulator in Chrome is pretty neat (Press F12 and then Esc, select Emulation tab).
jgherbert
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jgherbert,
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4/30/2014 | 1:16:49 PM
Bloatware
Yeah, I said it. 

I used to use Firefox because it was faster and, in part, because it wasn't Internet Explorer. I liked the Add-ons available, which added a lot of geek functionality to support my work. Now though, it just seems slow and painful, so I moved to Chrome and haven't looked back. My "new machine" installation list begins with antivirus and is followed immediately by Chrome. Firefox isn't doesn't make that list at any point.

Before Firefox was the new cool, people used to use Opera because it was fast and light, and in comparison to the other browsers it was pretty amazing. And then Opera got bloated and slow, and we moved to Firefox. Based on that history, I fully expect Chrome to get bloaty and useless, and I'll have to reconsider what to use. For some reason, Safari never quite gets a look in on my Windows computers (though it and Chrome run on my Macs).
moonwatcher
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moonwatcher,
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4/30/2014 | 11:32:38 AM
Mozilla Turmoil as Firefox 29 Debuts
After witnessing the self-appointed "thought police" ouster their former CEO for having a traditional opinon of his own, I switched to Google Chrome, and won't be looking back. In fact, Chrome loads pages faster, and is nice, clean, and lean.
Drew Conry-Murray
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Drew Conry-Murray,
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4/30/2014 | 10:58:37 AM
Hoping 29 Is Stable
I've been frustrated with Firefox lately because it would crash once or twice a day, forcing me to log in to all the Web apps I use for work. I downloaded 29 last night in hopes of a better experience. I was worried that all the customization options would make it harder to get up and going--I'm not big on customizing.

So far I've been pleased: no dramatic changes that have put features in a new place, and no crashes (but it's still early).

I really want Mozilla to succeed because I don't want Google to own the world. We need alternatives.


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