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Microsoft Surface: Why More Is More
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JohnD985
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JohnD985,
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5/10/2014 | 9:23:55 AM
RIP MICROSOFT
Poor, doomed Microsoft, taking a failed idea, and making it bigger

 

Yes, Michael.

 

I totally agree.

 

And reading your article, even more so!
anon5989648575
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anon5989648575,
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5/10/2014 | 12:42:48 PM
Re: RIP MICROSOFT
Not so fast re disrespecting the Surface Pro. My wife and I both love ours.  I am a doctor and do all my charting, orders, etc with patients in the exam room in a natural face-to-face encounter with the person. I am not turned away looking at a computer monitor.  I use the built in microphone for Dragon Naturally Speaking.  My wife works out of the home and also does a lot of business travel, all with one computer.  We both use docking stations when at a desk, it has an elegant and quick in/out design.
JohnF737
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JohnF737,
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5/10/2014 | 1:08:33 PM
Re: RIP MICROSOFT
You are right... people who complain about it have probably just not even tried it.... I have a laptop, a Surface pro and a Windows phone... all working very well and in sync.... Windows 8.1 works well... only some people won't be able to acknowledge that because they are still in their cave eating an apple... and paying through their nose for it too.... By the way I use Dragon 12.5 for my thesis and it works great... on my Surface pro...
danielcawrey
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danielcawrey,
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5/10/2014 | 2:38:49 PM
Re: RIP MICROSOFT
It's interesting: Microsoft has long let hardware partners make the products for its software. Now, we might be seeing why. The company is weak in designing hardware. Sure, I know that they have used contract manufacturers to make the Surface happen. But they also did the same with the Xbox and that worked out. 

What's so different about tablets? It's a totally different form factor. At least the Xbox was like a desktop computer, not a revolutionary type of product. I think that Microsoft will figure about the Surface at some point. But with competitors like Samsung and Motorola, it's unlikely that they are going to be able to make up ground anytime soon. 
LorinThwaits
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5/10/2014 | 10:50:07 AM
We gave up on you, Microsoft -- when will you give up on us?
All the real reasons we hate Windows 8 still persist -- those crappy charms, two different control panels, very difficult to navigate Metro apps, a janky App Store clone being the only way to patch the thing...

This whole thing is like having a lover who is saddled with a horrible addiction and claims, "Oh but I can change!"  AND NEVER DOES.  Only minimal strides towards getting clean -- and then a complete relapse.  The hell continues.
C DavidB235
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C DavidB235,
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5/10/2014 | 4:57:44 PM
Re: We gave up on you, Microsoft -- when will you give up on us?
Lorin

Wow - so sorry about you love life. Realy hope life gets better for you soon.
SmokeStackL802
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SmokeStackL802,
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5/10/2014 | 12:41:13 PM
Bigger????
They should just call it a laptop and be done with it.
Larryw4csc
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5/10/2014 | 7:42:48 PM
Re: Bigger????
I wanted the Pro, loaded, I really did.  But, alas, my disappointment was total.  It couldn't pass the "Restaurant Test".  This test is to play a medium-level avi movie in a crowded restaurant at FULL VOLUME.  If the people at the tables around me call in the manager to bitch about all the noise from the tablet, it passes!  The Surface Pro failed, miserably!  We couldn't even hear the movie at OUR TABLE, much less a table away!  Anything priced at over $1200 better damned well have BOSE-class speakers and a STEREO AUDIO AMPLIFIER way too loud to listen to at full volume!

 

What were they thinking??

 
rradina
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rradina,
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5/12/2014 | 11:51:44 AM
Re: Bigger????
Do any other tablets pass this test?
anon6167839637
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anon6167839637,
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5/10/2014 | 3:34:55 PM
Yawn
"Microsoft may debut an expanded lineup of Surface tablets on May 20 -- including a bigger model."

 

Why so we can see that garbage of a UI even better.
DouglasG778
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5/11/2014 | 10:43:59 AM
Competative edge or unfair advantage?
The ultimate laptop killer, a 14" Surface Pro with high res, windows 8.1, office 365, Intel chip, 6 gigs ram,  and a detachable key board with additional battery.   Give me the ability to plug it into a dock so I can run two displays and plug in the power at the same time, add WiGig and now it's the ultra portable laptop/desktop killer.  The tech is all there and I suspect many (I certainly) would gladly pay for such a competitive advantage.
unmeshk
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5/11/2014 | 1:50:28 PM
Try before you complain!
 

Most of the negative comments in this article are misinformed or unwarranted. Surface Pro 2 is a really good device and most people who have used it like theirs.

I prefer it over an iPad, since it's basically the tablet with the best compute and memory specs out there, and it has the flexibility to convert into a laptop. iPad was an innovation when it came out, but is no match to Surface on compute capability or versatility. Check the specs.

I use my Surface for work and can even code on it, while my kid can remove the keyboard and play games - really cool. Windows 8.1 has some oddities, but so does OSX.

Reviewers need to shed their iGlasses and look at devices objectively.

 

 
mak63
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5/12/2014 | 2:24:36 AM
mini?
I don't like to write negative comments, just for the sake of of it. Nonetheless, call it mini it's going too far, don't you think? How about call the small tablet itsy-bitsy and the larger jumbo?

 
rradina
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rradina,
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5/12/2014 | 12:07:09 PM
Surface 2 Pro
1)  If Microsoft wants to sell more Surface 2 Pros, they need to rethink their value.  IMO, it's just too high for what you get.  By the time one adds the necessary stuff to make it a real laptop replacement, the thing costs almost $2K!  IMO -- they'd fly off the shelves if you equipped the entry-level model (at a $999 price point) with a 512GB SSD, 16GB RAM, a few more hours of battery life, a killer camera, better mics, a keyboard and a stylus.  The only upsell should be an add-on but PLUGGABLE cell radio (and no, not pluggable by having a dongle hanging out a USB port!)  I realize that doesn't leave room for higher price points but what good is a product if it continues to lose money?  Make less and be profitable by selling a lot more of ONE MODEL!  Why on earth are there so many models?  Folks say they are trying to copy Apple and yet they seem to be forgetting simplicity sells.  Do I like having options and add-ons?  Of course!  However, it seems the public is confused by such choices and just wants the one device that makes their life easier.  Give it to them.  Let other hardware vendors offer all those other options after you set the bar.  Others can remove features and get cheaper or add more and go higher.  However, others shouldn't be able to give folks MORE for less money.

 

2)  Whatever you build, it has to be rock friggin' solid.  I've heard there have been firmware upgrades and various software glitches requiring updates.  It should just work without a lot of patching and fooling around.  Come on Microsoft!  Make one model with predicatable hardware and make sure the firmware and device drivers are rock solid.  No excuses.  I have a Win 8.1 tablet that still suffers from the same classic firmware glitches and driver problems that have always plagued the Windows world.  I realize that isn't all Microsoft's fault since they are only as good as the hardware vendor's hardware design, component quality, firmware and device drivers.  However, IF YOU MAKE THE WHOLE THING, this excuse is no longer allowed.
SaneIT
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5/13/2014 | 7:33:16 AM
Re: Surface 2 Pro
@rradina, I have a "maxed out" Surface Pro 2 and I wholeheartedly agree with you.  I held off on buying and had to work hard to convince myself that this was worth the cost.  I don't just use it as a tablet/laptop though, it is my desktop.   I bought a docking station so it sits on my desk displaying my calendar all day while driving a large LCD display full sized keyboard and mouse.  The problem though is that I paid close to what I would have for a well-equipped desktop.  The flexibility is what really sold me though, I can pick up my "desktop" and walk around the building with it and not give up any real functionality.  As a tablet it works great, as a desktop in the dock it works great and as a small laptop it works well but with big hands the keyboard and mouse really leave a lot to be desired.  What I'd really like to see is an IBM style butterfly keyboard so that I can get a larger keyboard to use with it when I have heavier typing to do on the road.


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