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China Rejects Windows 8 For Government Computers
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PaulS681
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5/20/2014 | 6:27:46 PM
Angry at MS
So I gather the Chinese are angry at MS for pulling the plug on XP so they are banning Windows 8 for government use. A little childish?

It would sound a little better if they actually gave a reason why they are banning 8 other than XP.
Thomas Claburn
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5/20/2014 | 6:37:07 PM
Re: Angry at MS
The advantage of unelected government is you don't have to give a reason for anything.
DannyL804
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5/21/2014 | 12:13:40 AM
Re: Angry at MS
I am guessing that the Chinese government installed Windows 8 on a desektop and then realized how truly awful it really is. The worst and most frustrating decision I ever made was upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8.
PaulS681
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5/21/2014 | 7:36:49 AM
Re: Angry at MS
I might have agreed with that a year ago but now now. Windows 8.1 is not that bad. I have it running on my laptop fine. What is odd is they are mad at MS for pulling the plug on XP, but I guess Wondows 7 is ok to use.

However, it didn't sound like they had any Windows 7 OS's there, Just XP and 8.
AsokS489
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5/21/2014 | 12:23:31 PM
Re: Angry at MS
Ya, just gotta love and OS that "isn't that bad". Or you could simply go with one that's "good".
PaulS681
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5/21/2014 | 1:17:06 PM
Re: Angry at MS
Asok... Not that bad means good. Calling Windows 8.1 a cell phone OS is very inacurate. I use Windows 8.1 to carry out my job and have no problem doing that. Have you ever tried windows 8.1?

 
AsokS489
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5/21/2014 | 12:22:16 PM
Re: Angry at MS
You gather wrong. The Chinese will be buying Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 to replace their XP machines. That's because the Chinese government is smart enough not to want to put a cell-phone interface on all of their new PCs.
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5/21/2014 | 12:51:55 PM
Re: Angry at MS
One has to wonder just how much Microsoft is demanding from customers who want to have support contracts for Windows XP. 

Windows XP works. That's why organizations have stuck with it until now. And Windows 8 really isn't something from a user standpoint that is so revolutionary. I get the improve security and technology. But most people, the end users, don't care about that. They just want things to work and be easy to use. 
PaulS681
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5/21/2014 | 1:25:27 PM
Re: Angry at MS

@Daniel... At some point doesn't it become a cost issue for MS? They have to spend $$$ to support their OS's. How long do you keep an OS active? What MS is doing is nothing new. I think most software companies end support for older versions at some point. I think the big mistake MS made is with Vista. That was the one after XP and the reason people didn't jump off of XP, for good reason. Vista was terrible with its use of memory. I think that still is hurting them.

 

Gary_EL
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5/21/2014 | 1:45:18 PM
Re: Angry at MS
That's funny. Windows 8.1 is so distasteful that the Chinese won't even bother to steal it. I thought that they were using some form of Linux that they developed themselves so that they could have complete control over it?
Michael Endler
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5/21/2014 | 7:15:45 PM
Re: Angry at MS
My thought too. I didn't realize petualnce was grounds for an entire government's technology policy.
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5/21/2014 | 8:53:15 AM
I don't blame them for baning Windows 8 (so far)
With Windows 8 being a consumer centric O/S, China is probably making the right call. Until ways are given to lock out the infernal Metro interface, no self-respecting business would look to Windows 8 when Windows 7 is still available.

Maybe they are just trying to negotiate a better deal, either for continuing Windows XP support or for upgrading all those older PCs to Windows 7 (which might be a viable path).

Fortunately from a desktop user perspective Windows 8.1 Update is about 100% better than Windows 8 was. They ought to at least give it a look on any NEW PCs they buy.

BTW, I'm in engineering but deal with IT and users all the time. Could Microsoft have made the 8.1 Update any more confusing for the clueless masses? After putting out the 8.1 update, calling the NEXT thing 8.1 UPDATE was simply crazy. Couldn't they have called it 8.2 to differentiate it? I've had so many co-workers and friends who don't have a clue what version of Windows 8 they are running or if they are in danger of losing support if they don't "update"...Jeez....
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5/21/2014 | 6:14:22 PM
Not Really a Windows 8 Issue
Do the commenters REALLY think this is an issue with the Windows 8 design? It's government computers, remember. Do you think they trust ANY software made by a U.S. company at this point?
PaulS681
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5/21/2014 | 6:58:52 PM
Re: Not Really a Windows 8 Issue
If thats the case then why do they use windows at all??
VZHANG116
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5/22/2014 | 1:16:09 AM
Reason is simplest
Remember Snowden? Nobody denies that Win8 is the safest OS now, but it has backdoor, just like before, just like Cisco stuff, with it the US will be a shooter and China will be a shoot, it's not even a risk at all, it's doomed.
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5/23/2014 | 4:30:23 PM
Ordinary distrust.
I think China is wise in not trusting Windows8, there may be a peep-hole to the Americans - essentially a security breach in the opposite direction.

I think by banning Windows8 in goverment, they let the population know not to use Window8 (or any MS product) thus opening the eyes for Linux and other O/S systems.

Linux, in the end, will win, I think - "Built by the perople, for the people" more along the Chinese culture.
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5/27/2014 | 1:04:14 PM
Buy? Really?
Like one of other commenters hinted at, did they actually "buy" any Win XP anyway? I don't think it is coincidence that is last Win o/s that didn't require activation. Otherwise they would move to Win 7 like other Win XP users. At least the ones that have converted anyway.

I'd say MS should do NSA a favor, let them run XP forever. Won't be tough to crack their computers and see who they are hacking/stealing from next.

As far as Linux use, can you really see the Chinese gov get behind something open source like that? Not likely.


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