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House Passes Bill To Limit NSA Spying
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SachinEE
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5/28/2014 | 12:32:30 PM
Re: Compromising
I tend to agree with you Joe Limiting NSA's activities means stabilizing the economy a little bit. It's hard for a company like Amazon to start up it s business operations in a country that many people view USA as an enemy. They will suspect that the company through creating its data centre in that country they would be relaying information to the NSA and this will not go hand in hand with business.
the devil
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5/24/2014 | 11:46:11 PM
Re: Compromising
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anon7036540108,
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5/24/2014 | 5:03:16 PM
Re: Compromising
You're WAY oversimplifying the situation....Amazon, IBM, etc. are ALREADY worldwide companies with data centers all over the world.  Just because a data center is overseas, do you think that makes it so the NSA cannot make a request of a company doing (lots) of business in the U.S., to turn over records of converstations between U.S. residents and suspected overseas terrorists?  The data could be stored on a server in Timbuktu, but the company would have to provide the info to NSA, unless it had no presence in the U.S.A., which isn't going to happen anytime soon......another consideration is, we have friendly countries worldwide, and this is more than just NSA, don't you think the British, French, etc., have the same type of organization, and don't you think they just may be sharing it with NSA and vice versa (e.g., they're working together)???  Boy, news agencies really try to blind people to the reality of the situation, trying to oversimplify things to stir up anomosity with the NSA....
Charlie Babcock
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Charlie Babcock,
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5/23/2014 | 7:02:12 PM
Who's watching who?
Sen. Sensenbrenner says his bill sends "a clear message to the NSA: 'We are watching you.'" I hope he stays on his best behavior because it's probably the other way around.
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5/23/2014 | 11:53:29 AM
Pervasive economic credibility
I agree that our economic realities depend on our credibility in the eyes of the rest of the world. While the US does represent a disproportionate market share in terms of worldwide consumption of consumer goods, it has fallen short in protecting consumer rights, especially in the area of privacy. This necessarily has an economic effect, take for example European tolerance of US (corporate) policy.

It is one thing to collect bulk data, and another to protect and inure. Using Rumsfeldian logic we cannot be sure where government control of bulk data will lead, but we can observe how it has impacted other countries.

Now we just need a constitutional amendment to revoke Citizens United so that the premise of egalitarian principles can once again act in our stead. Why? Try researching BHA and BHT food additives as an example.
Joe Stanganelli
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Joe Stanganelli,
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5/23/2014 | 10:37:35 AM
Compromising
The problem with passing compromise bills is it then becomes nigh impossible to get the other side/interests to agree to what you really want down the line.  (In their minds, they've already given in.)

The problem with not passing compromise bills is that, once in a while, it's the best you can get.

That said, forget privacy and the individual for a moment.  It's in the best interest of the country to limit NSA surveillance measures in a serious, major, meaningful way if for no other reason than economics.  Foreign customers have fled from the US market; some are refusing to do business with any cloud provider that cooperates with PRISM.  Meanwhile, cloud heavies like IBM, Amazon, and Salesforce.com are scrambling to build data centers abroad.  And that potentially represents offshore earnings that will likely not be repatriated for tax purposes.  (Remember the Apple hearings?)


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