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David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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5/30/2014 | 7:16:51 PM
Re: Pizza and leadership: the unmentioned rule
The idea here is basically that the organization is made up of "cells" of no more than, say, 8 people (assuming 8 slices per pie, two slices per person)? Surely at some point they must have to meet on a larger scale...

I noticed Charlie said development teams and not just teams. I suspect they have bigger teams in other depasrtments. It seems reasonable to imagine that in development teams where agility is needed and where work can be divided.
Susan_Nunziata
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5/30/2014 | 7:03:42 PM
Re: Pizza and leadership: the unmentioned rule
@Charlie: And, apparently, they enjoy short lines for a slice of pizza...

That is fascinating, and sensible. I'm having trouble imagining how that can possibly scale -- which shows the limits of my imagination, not the limits of the concept.

The idea here is basically that the organization is made up of "cells" of no more than, say, 8 people (assuming 8 slices per pie, two slices per person)? Surely at some point they must have to meet on a larger scale...

 

 
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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5/30/2014 | 7:01:27 PM
Re: Nice comparison, but ...
Dave Wagner has hit on a new golden rule of management, IMHO: Treat eveveryone as if you want them to buy you a pizza. 


Thanks! Maybe I should sell it as a t-shirt. :)
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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5/30/2014 | 6:59:56 PM
Re: "thank you"
@snunyc- I suspect that isn't only a woman thing. I have an intense need to be liked, and I struggle when I have to make the unpopular call. I do it, but I hate it. 

But I do think it is a "nice person" thing and I think society has long given men more permission to be jerks. 

But walking the line between friend and manager is always going to be a very real issue for any real person. 
Susan_Nunziata
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Susan_Nunziata,
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5/30/2014 | 6:59:03 PM
Re: Nice comparison, but ...
@Dave: you mean like how every politician likes to tell the story of how they were raised in a log cabin? Because they think it will make them more relatable to the general public?

:)
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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5/30/2014 | 6:57:07 PM
Re: "thank you"
@alison- Personally, I'd like the parade. :)

No seriously, I agree with you. There's nothing worse than a boss that treats you like you don't matter. Go through the motions, at least. So out of curiosity, what means more to you-- the actual words "thank you" or some other sign of gratitide? Personally, I prefer "job well done" or specific compliments. But maybe I have too much of an ego.
Susan_Nunziata
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5/30/2014 | 6:55:35 PM
Re: "thank you"
@cafzall: I like the idea of a "Thank You Culture" that should be a standard in every organization.

It's interesting to me what you say about "picking people for management-level positions that aren't only successful in handling the tactical aspects of their job, but are also people you actually like working for."

one of the things I've struggled with as a woman and as a manager is the incliniation to want to be "liked" in the workplace. i certainly want to be one of those managers that people like working for, though it has taken me some practice to realize that does not mean that everyone who works for me has to like me all the time.

I don't know if this is a particular challenge for me personally, for female managers in general, or if everyone learning to manage teams has work to overcome this tendency...

Thoughts?
Susan_Nunziata
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5/30/2014 | 6:49:01 PM
Re: Nice comparison, but ...
@Rob: I don't see the two as mutually exclusive. Maybe "be one of the gang" isn't exactly the right way to phrase it--it's more about being your authentic self and above all else being human. Those leaders who truly inspire others to do their best are, in my experience, the ones who are able to show their true, authentic selves in the workplace, and strive to treat their employees with compassion and respect. In my experience, those who do that have it come back to them in spades, even in times when they have to make the tough decisions that will make some team members unhappy.

Taking this line of thinking further, even those leaders who are considered "difficult" (Steve Jobs) show their authentic selves for better or worse.

Where I have seen leaders run into toruble is when they behave the way they think managers are "supposed" to behave, or according to what's in some kind of Management 101 handbook.

To thine own self be true...

 
Susan_Nunziata
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5/30/2014 | 6:42:08 PM
Re: Nice comparison, but ...
@DavidC: Ha! and don't forget the beer...

Dave Wagner has hit on a new golden rule of management, IMHO: Treat eveveryone as if you want them to buy you a pizza.

I've definitely had bosses in past jobs who operated under a different philosophy: Treat everyone as if you want them to buy you a straitjacket.

;)

 
David F. Carr
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5/30/2014 | 6:02:26 PM
Re: Pizza and leadership: the unmentioned rule
@Charlie, I've heard the same "two pizza" rule of thumb applies at Amazon.
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