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Apple Dumps Google Search For Microsoft's Bing
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Thomas Claburn
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6/3/2014 | 4:34:48 PM
Will it switch users?
As far as I can tell, Spotlight in OS X 10.9 doesn't have a way to set the Web search provider. Does this mean everyone who upgrades to 10.10 will get Bing? And if so, will Google be a non-default option?
David F. Carr
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6/3/2014 | 6:13:25 PM
Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
Will be interesting to see whether this backfires the way kicking Google Maps off the iPhone did, initially. My guess is no: for the functions where people would use the default search function (rather than taking a browser to google.com), Mac users are likely to find Bing meets their needs just as well.

Of course, I'm thinking functionally. Does Google brand loyalty run deep enough to provoke outrage over this move?
DDURBIN1
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6/4/2014 | 10:11:12 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
Bing is not the number one search engine on Windows XP, Vista, Win7 or even Win8 where users are forced to have Bing installed.  Google is dispite Microsoft bullying tactics to force Bing on everybody.  In the face of this acceptance Apple desides otherwise.  If Apple gives its customers a true choice, Bing won't be the search engine of choice for most.  If forced to use Bing I bet a lot of Apple customers won't upgrade, me for one.
majenkins
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6/4/2014 | 2:55:09 PM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
Ddurbin, I suspect you are correct however I think most normal users prefer Google because they have never used anything else, and if they did it looked different so they changed back. When most people say "just Google it" few regular users are even going to realize there is another search engine available. Personally I prefer Bing, I usually find their results better, though not always, and like hate that Google starts wasting time searching before I finish typing. That is very distracting to me as I try to watch what I am typing. I know this can be turned off but it doesn't help to turn it off when your cookie cleaner essentially turns it back on a day or so later.
MichaelZ455
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6/8/2014 | 10:30:37 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
I prefer google searches but I took the "Bing challenge" and actually prefer google in that test too.  That said, I use startpage.com for personal reasons but it does use google's search engine.

Apple should let their customers decide which is best.  Isn't this what the infamous Microsoft lawsuit was about?  Browser choice?  Why not let consumers choose which search engine they want.


I will say this about Bing and the inflated stats.  Ever see one of those articles on msn.com, where you have a list of "20 things....", "15 most expensive cities to live in..." and such?  Well, as you go through the article it is very vague and you have to click on the links to reveal each one to read the article.  That is 15 or 20 Bing searches just to read an article.  So as a result I woud have done 20 Bing searches to read an article and I am not even a fan of Bing.  To read such an article is as bad as having a video (usually with a video ad first) forced on you instead of just being able to read something.  You know what I do in both of these cases?  I just close the browser and don't bother proceeding.  If I actually want to read up on whatever the content was I startpage.com it.  Honestly I think I dislike pretty pictures in Bing searches when I just need content.


Microsoft being able to inflate stats does not make Bing a better search engine.  Apple is going downhill since Jobs died
DDURBIN1
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6/9/2014 | 9:47:15 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
@majenkins; Unlike the GOP or DNC, I don't believe most people are naive about everything in their lives including search engines.
majenkins
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6/9/2014 | 10:29:47 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
DDURBIN1 If you believe the majority of everyday computer users know or care what search engine they use then I would say you probably haven't worked with very many everyday computer users.
MichaelZ455
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6/8/2014 | 10:20:37 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
I didn't realize Bing had to be 'installed'.  I personally delete all toolbars if that is what you mean.  I do more than just search for things on my computers.  Toolbars tend to add some unpredictability to the computing experience by making decisions for you (blocking sites, redirecting things)
DDURBIN1
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6/9/2014 | 10:03:07 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
@MichaelZ455, in Windows 8 Bing is now baked in, where as you had a choice previously now you don't.  Bing is used by the the OS's desktop and Metro searches. You can still use Google or install Google toolbar. 
MichaelZ455
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6/9/2014 | 11:27:33 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
DDURBIN1-What exactly does that mean?  If I use Chrome or Firefox would it affect me at all?   If so then this is a very stupid decision on Apple's part because it will coerce people to use an alternate browser if they don't already.  I support a free an open internet which I can decide on what to access, not to be forced down a certain path.  Personally, I don't like Bing.  Whether or not I could learn to like it is besides the point.  The loss of productivity on my part is not worth it as I use startpage.com quite a bit for my google searches.

This decision should be left to the user!

 
DDURBIN1
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6/9/2014 | 11:53:03 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
@MichaelZ455, Don't upgrade to Win8 and you'll be fine just like a Ka-zillion other Windows users.  Bing is now part of Windows 8 (baked in).  You can NOT delete it as you can with all other versions of Windows. For Desktop and Metro searches Bing is the tool you will use in Windows 8 by default.  However you can add and use other search engines for the internet and desktop from Google or other search engine apps but they will co-exist with Bing.
DDURBIN1
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6/9/2014 | 11:59:08 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
My great grand mother knows the difference between Microsoft and Google just as she did between Barack Obama and Rick Perry.  Its not that hard, really.
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6/10/2014 | 5:54:20 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
lol, bing isn't baked in, Internet explorer is. Please stop giving tech advice.... lol
anon6841509715
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6/10/2014 | 6:04:20 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
I would like to know you're plan to download the browser you want..... if the computer doesn't come with a browser.
DDURBIN1
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6/10/2014 | 7:51:53 AM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
This article is talking about the serach engine not the browser. Apple provides Navigator with Bing search as the article states instead of Google search. It would help if you read the article before posting comments.
MichaelZ455
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6/10/2014 | 1:43:59 PM
Re: Will Google be missed on Mac OS?
You don't need to be a putz, dude.  I did read the article several days ago.  I am not familiar with this feature of OSX; probably because I just use my browser to search the net.
Charlie Babcock
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6/3/2014 | 7:08:00 PM
Google has an edge, will be missed by Apple users
I use Bing for about 40% of my searches and it meets the Prairie Home Companion's standard of "pretty good." But Google still clearly has an edge in speed and quality of results on hot, new topics. So some Apple users are not only going to notice, they will gnash their teeth and think once again what life might be like outside the Apple reservation. 
Susan_Nunziata
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6/3/2014 | 7:43:15 PM
Re: Google has an edge, will be missed by Apple users
@Charlie: you can count me in among the "teeth-gnashers" on this one. seems to me the goal should be offering th best availsble services to your customers, not playing games of one-upsmanship with competitors.

Which leads me to wonder: What, in your view, has been the most egregious example of this type of competitive one-upsmanship among tech companies that has ended up being bad for customers?

The US mishmash of cellular systems in the early days of wireless and proprietarty handsets for each carrier is one of my favorite examples for having slowed down adoption of cellular and hampered quality of services in the U.S. compared to toher countries.

What's yours?
 

 
JamesD775
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6/3/2014 | 8:09:24 PM
bling? say it ain't so...
Bling?  Really?  Come now Apple, that's the WORST choice you could make.

Stop the politics Tim,  let the USERS decide which search engine they want...

....oh,  wait, sorry, I forgot this is Apple we're talking about.
Li Tan
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6/4/2014 | 3:52:41 AM
Re: bling? say it ain't so...
I will sit there still with finger crossed. The decision is not really made by the vendor but by the end user. What the user community will say will finally determine its destine...
SaneIT
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6/4/2014 | 7:31:42 AM
Re: bling? say it ain't so...
In Apple's defense they haven't removed options they have added options they are just steering the default search engine over to Bing which does look to be a jab at Google.  The options for default search engines expanded and include DuckDuckGo and Yahoo besides Google and Bing.  What I find most interesting through this is that Apple picked a past rival to get under the skin of what they see as their biggest current rival.  Funny how the old saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer applies here.
Kristin Burnham
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6/12/2014 | 8:04:26 PM
Re: bling? say it ain't so...
@SaneIT, You're spot on. They're not getting rid of the Google option entirely, they're just making it more difficult to choose. And the rivalry continues...
SaneIT
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6/13/2014 | 7:57:50 AM
Re: bling? say it ain't so...
I just think it is funny that they are using their fiercest competitors from years past to take jabs at Google.  The tech world is a funny place as market share changes.
Shane M. O'Neill
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6/4/2014 | 9:48:02 AM
Google vendetta
Google continues to get under Apple's skin. But, to be fair, shouldn't Apple use the search engine favored by the most people as its default? I guess the enemy of my enemy really is my friend. Microsoft and Apple are getting too chummy. It's making me uncomfortable.
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6/4/2014 | 10:09:46 AM
Surprised
I must admit, I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner. Highlighting the product of your main software competitor seems like an odd strategy, even if that service is traditionally considered better than the alternatives. 
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6/4/2014 | 10:18:08 AM
Re: Surprised
I think Apples decision lies in Microsoft making Office available on iOS iPads where Google has no such leverage.  It's tit for tat.
MichaelZ455
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6/8/2014 | 10:21:40 AM
Re: Surprised
Wait, Microsoft isn't an Apple competitor?  Hmmm


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