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SaneIT
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6/12/2014 | 7:17:48 AM
Re: Sadly we do need this
That is an amazing story and yes as you noted this is done within the rules.  I'm sure there was a fair amount of sarcasm going during the talk about walking out on a wing too.  I know we are a little off subject but this is one of the things I think AIs will have to overcome when dealing with humans.  When we get sarcastic and they take everything literally problems will only get worse.
David Wagner
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6/11/2014 | 11:54:50 AM
Re: Sadly we do need this
@SaneIT- I was flipping channels yesterday and saw a story about a WWII bomber co-pilot. He had hit his mazx number of missions and didn't have to fly at all but he decided to fly a mission with his crew anyway despite the fact that his first son was being born that night. During the mission, his plane was hit and the wing was on fire. 

He decided to...get this...attach himself to a parachute and have the crew hold the parachute end while he CLIMBED ON TO THE WING with a fire extinguisher and put out the flames. He somehow succeeded at this despite being at 20,000 ft and going 180 miles per hour. But just as he put the fire out, a fighter plane shot at the bomber again, setting it on fire again and wounding the guy on the wing and he flew off of it. The crew held on while he was DANGLING OFF THE PLANE for several minutes before deciding he must be dead and they let go.

As he fell, his parachute CAUGHT ON FIRE. And he fell 20,000 feet with a burning parachute, but somehow survived the fall with two broken legs and several bullet wounds.

He was paraded through a German town and sent to a prison camp. He tried to excape twice before finally getting away.

When he got back to England, they told him he was getting England's highest medal. And his response was "What for?"

No one would believe that if they made it a movie. And yet that seems more heroic and more within the chain of command than anything I ever see in Hollywood. Hopefully there are enough of those stories that get told during training that it counteracts Hollywood.
SaneIT
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SaneIT,
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6/11/2014 | 7:20:29 AM
Re: Sadly we do need this
@David, I would tend to believe that those who are enlisted or are employed by the intelligence agencies understand the chain of command and that the majority follow it but part of me sees movies, games, stories where the good soldier turns into a great hero only after breaking out of that mold.  This makes me wonder how often that really happens, not that they become great heroes but that they try to break away because they think that will make them great.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/10/2014 | 10:23:37 AM
Re: Sadly we do need this
@saneIT- Good question. I suspect different parts of government respond differently to that. The military seems to impart from the beginning that being a hero by ignoring orders is not cool. I'd like to think intelligence mostly does the same. 

But we're all the heroes of our own stories so I suspect Hollywood inspires us all to have a little rebellious streak. 

But if you hear "We follow orders or people die" enough I'd like to think you get past the movie stuff.
SaneIT
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6/10/2014 | 7:09:23 AM
Re: Sadly we do need this
@David,

That brings up another issue, do our government agencies think they are portrayed in a good light in most movies?  Sure in some they are the heroes but in nearly every movie that involves the FBI, CIA any intelligence agency or even local police departments there is a lot of dysfunction and it's the person who goes against all the rules who actually gets the job done.  Does this mean that FBI and CIA agents are using those movies as a model for their jobs?  This would explain some things like Edward Snowden's situation.

 
Broadway0474
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6/9/2014 | 11:24:23 PM
Re: Sadly we do need this
Sorry, there will be no digital way with only words to convey the complexity of expression that comes with the face and body language. Perhaps the government can ask us to post a selfie every time we tweet so that they can try to discern our earnestness that way.
PedroGonzales
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6/9/2014 | 10:09:32 PM
Re: Sadly we do need this
that is a good point David. I read somewhere the japanese are big on emicons, may be instead of talking we will all be communicating via emicons.  I really think our tax dollars could be spend on much wiser projects than developing a program to detect sarcasms.  How a about a computer that will tell better knock knock jokes.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/9/2014 | 3:58:54 PM
Re: Sadly we do need this
I think the sarcasm font would just start being used sarcastically. But I love the idea that we need to use technology a little better to communicate what we lose with out body language and inflection.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/9/2014 | 3:52:58 PM
Re: Sarcasm at Work
This post has me thinking back on the many times I've employed sarcasm at work. And then I read some leadership material awhile back that said sarcasm is actually an expression of anger. I've always considered sarcasm to be a form of humor, not an expression of anger.So that really opened my eyes.

What do you all think? Is sarcasm just a passive agressive way to express your anger? Do you use sarcasm at work? how do you feel when others at work are sarcastic to you?


That's a toughie. I think a lot of humor is the expression of anger. They say humor is about someone else's pain. If you fall down it is funny to everyone but you. Someone else falls down, and it is funny again.

That said, we also use humor to see joy in painful situations.

There's a difference between sarcasm and irony. Irony is probably less angry. Still, I think there's room for all sorts of humor even in the office. But you have to earn your reputation for being kind, honest, and willing to say what you mean to folks so that when you are sarcastic or otherwise using humor people don't think you are doing it to hide your true feelings.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/9/2014 | 3:38:27 PM
Re: Sadly we do need this
The most shocking thing in Dave's article is that the Secret Service currently uses a FEMA's social media app...


@snunyc- I wonder why every government department can't use the same one to a certain extent. And the FEMA one seems to be a pretty good one. Our own Curt Franklin a few years ago wrote a great article about FEMA using Waffle Hosue openings to help know where to send the most assistance. They have some pretty clever ways of thinking through things.
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