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World Cup Management: Data Or Intuition?
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Thomas Claburn
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6/10/2014 | 3:59:00 PM
a better test for big data
The Manchester City story is interesting. I wonder though whether this one anecdoate isn't cherry-picked to illustrate the value of big data. Do we have a broad enough set of example teams using such data to conclude that it improves outcomes?
David Wagner
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6/10/2014 | 4:01:57 PM
Re: a better test for big data
@Thomas- They no doubt have plenty of game data on corner kicks. Thousands of games across dozens of leagues with corner kicks analyzed both via video and through chips int he balls. 

The questions that seem difficult to answer are a) Does that alone move you from a 3rd place team to a first place team? b) Once everyone has the data, does it change? c) Even if it doesn't change (say it is just inherent to the game) how quickly is the advantage eroded by everyone copying?

It is a similar issue that companies face when they innovate and people quickly copy their efforts.
tjgkg
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6/24/2014 | 7:00:34 PM
Re: a better test for big data
It sounds like soccer is getting like baseball in its use of statistics and other forms of data. I am not quite sure of heat measurements though. Now if only FIFA can use all this technology to quickly react to a player who bites another player during the course of the World Cup.
StaceyE
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6/30/2014 | 8:25:54 PM
Re: a better test for big data
You would think there would have been some statistic to show if he had already bitten twice there was bound to be a third time....
batye
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7/1/2014 | 7:22:03 PM
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sad reality, but we always try to forget bad past.... or overlook at it....
StaceyE
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7/31/2014 | 11:04:53 AM
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@ batye

I agree. They probably gave the guy the benefit of the doubt...who would have thought he would bite someone...AGAIN!
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7/31/2014 | 12:58:56 PM
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yes, it happens, sad reality...
StaceyE
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8/31/2014 | 4:40:26 PM
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Sometimes someone should not be given the benefit of the doubt. This could stop repeat offenders.
batye
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9/9/2014 | 11:40:18 PM
Re: a better test for big data
@StaceyE  agree but where is also other factors in play... like politics and e.t.
StaceyE
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9/30/2014 | 2:13:55 PM
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Yes Batye, 

In any situation there are underlying factors that not everyone is aware of. But in a situation like Mr. Likes to Bite in the world cup, one time should have been too many.
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10/1/2014 | 12:16:59 AM
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@StaceyE, thing never stay the same and our likes and dislikes do change... as we change... how I see it...
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10/31/2014 | 4:45:35 PM
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@ Batye

Yes, people and situations do change, but when it comes to physical assault on the playing field, one time should be enough. No second chance is deserved there.
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11/1/2014 | 2:43:20 AM
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I would look at it as not a normal way of life... and would not turn my back...
StaceyE
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11/30/2014 | 10:35:19 AM
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@ BAtye

I agree, I wouldn't want to turn my back on that guy...I might get bit!
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12/1/2014 | 2:45:56 AM
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@StaceyE, good idea... I would be doing the same :)
tjgkg
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7/2/2014 | 9:14:56 AM
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You would think. In any case FIFA came down hard on him and it certainly affected his team as they were eliminated. Amazing how unapologetic they were about the incident. Doesn't really want to make you root for them or show any sympathy either because of that arrogance.
StaceyE
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7/31/2014 | 11:06:09 AM
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@ tigkg

I think they need to come down on him even harder, since he is a repeat offender and all...
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8/1/2014 | 11:33:41 AM
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I agree. Some of this stuff is so ridiculous that you really need to crack down on it to stop it. The World Cup was good but there was a lot of strange stuff going on that were beyond unsportsmanlike.
batye
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8/3/2014 | 12:16:45 AM
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it happens, and will happens again... as human nature could be good or bad :) or in... so to say...
tjgkg
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8/8/2014 | 4:20:15 PM
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It's a phase I guess. This crying and diving was really beyond the pale. It won't play in America and FIFA wants to break into this market in the worst way.
batye
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9/9/2014 | 11:41:38 PM
Re: a better test for big data
@tjgkg interesting point/observation....
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9/15/2014 | 1:04:48 PM
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Thanks Batye. Good to see you around these parts!
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9/15/2014 | 5:38:54 PM
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@tigkg - thank you, I glad to see we could continue our communications from E2 to SCIO/informationweek :) always a pleasure... even sometimes we not always agree :) lol  - thank you :) 
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9/16/2014 | 9:18:28 AM
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Thank you my friend. Having a different point of view is what makes the world go around. And I always respect your point of view regardless of whether we agree or disagree! :)
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9/16/2014 | 12:26:03 PM
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thank you :) agree :)
tjgkg
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10/10/2014 | 9:23:27 AM
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:)
StaceyE
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8/31/2014 | 4:42:22 PM
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@tigkg

It was a good demonstration of the craziness that is accepted nationally. Things that would never be accepted as sportsmanlike here in the U. S..
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9/15/2014 | 1:03:59 PM
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As someone who rarely if ever watches soccer, i was struck by how bad the divers were as actors. If I could pick it up, surely the refs who see this often could have called it. Then there was the guy from Urugay who liked to bite people...
StaceyE
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9/30/2014 | 2:15:42 PM
Re: a better test for big data
I am not much of a soccer fan either, but this years world cup seemed to have all kinds of drama to keep me interested! ;)
batye
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10/1/2014 | 12:18:25 AM
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@StaceyE, this days everyone in the same boat as no one have extra time to watch tv... reality of our life...
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10/31/2014 | 4:47:01 PM
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@ batye

I agree, it is hard to find time for the simple pleasures like watching TV with the busy lives we lead these days.
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11/1/2014 | 2:41:34 AM
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yes, as everything is rush, rush, rush.... and no time to enjoy simple life...
StaceyE
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11/30/2014 | 10:33:49 AM
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@ Batye

Another reason less people watch television is the internet. It is much easier for a busy person to read or watch the news online than to wait for the news to come on TV. Also, with products like Netflix and Hulu you can keep up on the latest TV shows without ever turning on your tv.
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12/1/2014 | 2:43:55 AM
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@StaceyE yes, as in Canada Cable and SATELITE Co. fighting Netflix via gov... as people making smart choice dropping Cable and SATELITE only staying with internet and Netflix... plus price of the devices going down... few days ago walmart.ca was selling Roku SS for $11 Can... 
tjgkg
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10/10/2014 | 9:43:45 AM
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It was a very good tournament. Most of the time the World Cup is pretty good because the teams have so much motivation and pride. That contrasts quite a bit with run of the mill soccer. I guess it depends upon where you grew up. Most Europeans think baseball is boring and the NFL is strange! One thing i love about soccer: no commercial interruptions during play!!!
StaceyE
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10/31/2014 | 4:51:04 PM
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@tigkg

I recently hired a contractor to install new windows and doors in my house (it was actually during the World Cup). He was from El Salvador and grew up playing soccer and even moved to France and played professionally for awhile before he had a bad knee injury that ended his career. It was very interesting to talk to him about sports and his view on American football and baseball. I learned a little more about soccer from him too. His views on our sports was exactly as you said...baseball was boring and he didn't even see the point in NFL!
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11/1/2014 | 2:45:17 AM
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most people in the trade indst. have interesting live... it just we never ask... as for me each human is like interesting book... how I see it...
StaceyE
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11/30/2014 | 11:28:05 AM
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@ BAtye

I agree, everyone we meet has an interesting story. We could really learn a lot from different people if we just take the time to get to know about them.
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12/1/2014 | 2:47:52 AM
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@StaceyE for me learning never ends one way or other... as we all have a story...
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11/24/2014 | 1:42:05 PM
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@StaceyE: In many ways soccer and baseball are similar in that there is a lot of dull time with some occasional bursts of real excitement. Those are the moments the afficianados wait for. The NFL used to be good but I cannot watch it anymore because of all the cutaways, replays and commercials. You really don't see the game properly unless you are at the stadium.
Lorna Garey
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6/10/2014 | 4:40:58 PM
Whose intuition
The problem to me is that deciphering signal from noise in big data sets is not a job for IT. It's a job for someone intimately familiar with the business. However, how often is it someone in IT deciding what data feeds to add to a dashboard?
David Wagner
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6/10/2014 | 4:44:43 PM
Re: Whose intuition
@Lorna- Exactly. Which is why management will never really die in the face of data. I think data scientists working for IT can help, but they can never replace the understand of the business. As with everything else in IT, it should be there to serve and transform the business, not act on its behalf. 
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6/10/2014 | 5:21:13 PM
Meet the New Game, Same as the Old Game
>> I'm saying that, to make a good data-driven decisions, you need good data, and good data is found, not in its bigness, but in its rightness. And that's going to take your intuition, whether you like it or not, to figure out what's good and what's bad.

>> But at the same time, you can't assume your intuition is enough.

@dave  --  It sounds like you are looking for the perfect world. Forget Billy Beane. Beane is now Brad Pitt. Here's a quote from Joe Ripp, CEO, Time Magazine:

>>"I can't fix it," Mr. Ripp has said repeatedly in meetings with senior managers. "You have to figure out a way to fix it."

That's yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
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6/10/2014 | 6:03:48 PM
Ja Wohl Deutschland!
Well, SAP just alienated some of their World Cup customers by helping out Germany. Maybe Larry Ellison should kick in some support for the US team to balance the playing field. Or they could  throw-in some pro bono consulting support to Ecuador (#32 rank) to demonstrate real-time data management. Just a thought.
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6/10/2014 | 6:14:07 PM
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@lufu- I suspect they'd help anyone who paid. But this does bring up the story I promised to tell about why I cheer for Italy.

Back a few World Cups ago, the US was on a little bit of a surprise run while I was living in Europe. The World Cup is a whole different level of reality in Europe. I watched most of the games in town squares across the continent with thousands of other fans watching big screen TVs. There was a crazy amount of singing and dancing and chanting. It was quite awesome.

However, while we were in Italy, the Italians were shockingly eliminated. We left the square (I think it was in Naples) and let the poor Italians mourn. We went into a restaurant that was entirely empty except for us. There were 8 servers (clealry they were expecting a celebration rush) all in the restaurant just looking sad. Then one of them came up to us and said, "Now that the Italians have been eliminated I'm pulling for USA to win the World Cup. Your team is very nice. You play the game very well."

In a moment of sports mourning, a perfect stranger took the time to say something nice about my team. And needless to say, Americans tourists aren't welcome everywhere. So unless it is the US vs Italy, I always cheer for Italy for a nice waiter at a little restaurant of a town square in Italy. 
LUFU
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6/10/2014 | 6:56:47 PM
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@David - I always get the sense there is more "joy" in fans (excluding the hooligans) for football AKA, soccer in the US, than other sports. The first time I got the sense of the game and its relevance was back in '78 in an Istanbul cafe without about 100 people congregating around a small black and white TV watching Argentina vs The Netherlands. None of us at the cafe were from those countries but everyone sided with one team or the other and were rooting them on with fervor and enthusiasm. It was a definite worldwide event.

Another time when the US was hosting the World Cup in '94, I was working near Los Gatos in California and that's where the Brazilian team was staying. Every night was Carnivale in Los Gatos with streets, bars, and restaurants just packed with Brazilians, fans, and a party-till-the-cows-come-home joie de vivre the town never experienced before or after.

But can we can the Vuvuzelas?
David Wagner
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6/10/2014 | 7:08:40 PM
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@lufu- I like the vuvuzelas. :)

Yes, I agree. There is a real joy and camraderie around soccer. I like the singing. I especially like how the Arsenal fans sing "You Never Walk Alone" win, lose, or draw. It seems like a nice sentiment. As long as there are Arsenal fans none of them is alone. 

OK, I'm getting overly sentimental about soccer now. :)
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6/10/2014 | 7:11:06 PM
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Ha! An Arsenal fan will know they are never walking alone when they have someone blowing a Vuvuzela in their ear!
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6/24/2014 | 7:02:51 PM
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Thank God there are no vuvuzelas at this World Cup. That was quite a distraction last time.
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6/24/2014 | 6:58:20 PM
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I thought Liverpool sang the "You'll Never Walk Alone" song? In any case Emirates Stadium is quite a site. I remember watching it go up and pass it frequently whilst on the train out of Kings Cross.
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6/10/2014 | 10:57:54 PM
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While we're on the topic of World Cup memories, back in 1998 I was in Mexico during the WC. They tied somebody --- maybe it was Italy, the masters of the tie --- and you would think they won the whole tournament. It was the middle of the day, and the entire city of Oaxaca shut down. Cars and people paraded throught the streets, blaring horns, shouting, laughing.
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6/13/2014 | 3:25:37 PM
Re: Ja Wohl Deutschland!
yes, they do know, how to celebrate victory...
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6/24/2014 | 6:47:57 PM
Re: Ja Wohl Deutschland!
Hopefully they will not be celebrating victory on Thursday when they play the US!
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6/11/2014 | 7:27:57 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I guess it's only a matter of time before robot coaches are telling players where to be, how to improve a specific skill set that the team needs and putting together perfect teams that just stand there looking at each other because each one is perfectly matched so there is no point in playing.  We'll just have machines running millions of simulations trying to find a bug in the robot coach's planning that will let them tally up 1/10000th of a point.
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6/11/2014 | 11:41:48 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@SaneIT- I doubt we'lll ever go to a robot manager simply because we'll be bigoted against them. Some team will try it, the players will rebel and play poorly. Or they will try it and win easily and they will be banned. 

I would asusme that robots could handle strategy and tactics, but I wonder if we can build a reasonable people manager that could manage when someone is tired and needs to be substituted or replaced before we just switch to all robot players.
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6/12/2014 | 7:19:46 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
We may not see the robot manager on the field but I wouldn't doubt that a piece of software will be running the show in the future.  Baseball managers are famous for their strategy, when a machine can assess all of the odds and pick the most advantageous action I can see managers turning to them for in game decision making.
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6/12/2014 | 11:46:54 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@SaneIT- That's probably a good compromise- an app on a tablet that makes suggestions like a bench coach. But a person to manage the personalities. Though as I say it, I wonder if after a certain amount of time whether players would enjoy the objectivity of a computer manager. If you know the ocmputer doesn't play favorites maybe you can accept its decisions better. 
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6/12/2014 | 10:02:17 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@ David.  I think it will makes player selection much better. If a player wants some sort of special treatment, the app can show via a record of their performance in the field that his actions aren't the correct one.  Those who want special treatment should evaluate themselves.  I do not know how one can assess the performance of the team and evaluate its individual players.
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6/13/2014 | 11:40:19 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@Pedro- I think it would too, though it would make for some interesting choices. For instance, the way the computer would see a hot streak compared to a person. A human sees a hot streak and thinks "wow, that guy is getting better" or at least "ride the hot hand." A computer might say the player is bound to regress to the mean and he might bench him int he middle of the hot streak. Imagine the howling that would create.

Though I know this--I wish the manager of my softball team was a computer. I'm batting .733 and he keeps dropping me in the linup for people who are terrible. :)
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6/12/2014 | 10:48:41 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I wonder if after a certain amount of time whether players would enjoy the objectivity of a computer manager. If you know the ocmputer doesn't play favorites maybe you can accept its decisions better.


@David    That would be an interesting way to approach things.  I agree.  One would think the players would have to respect to objective, based on the numbers approach a computer manager would use because they ( the players) are surly watching these numbers themselves.

But you still have the issue of playing time for instance which ultimately effects the programming of the computer manager and it's overall effectiveness.
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6/13/2014 | 7:56:19 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I saw the other day that Salesforce is talking about a smart watch to send notifications to employees.  I could see the same being used by a baseball manager, a little chime and the watch shows a pitch count and probability of your starter giving up a few runs this inning so the manager can have a conference on the mound.  Then during that conference the AI can assess the situation and recalculate the odds.
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6/13/2014 | 2:54:38 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I seen the same thing... I trust we are entering new age Internet of things... but with better control via smart watch...
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6/13/2014 | 2:53:27 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
could not agree more, it would be interesting to see, how it develops more with AI get  the play
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6/13/2014 | 11:15:48 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
Coaching, at least certain styles of it, takes way too much emotional IQ for a robot. Players have gotten plenty of robotic human coaches fired. A real robot wouldn't last a few weeks.
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6/24/2014 | 7:04:37 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
Why bother with human players then? Just make the coaches and players all robots. I think I saw something like that on the Jetsons many moons ago.
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6/25/2014 | 7:16:04 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I think we'll have human players for some time, mostly so that we have something to aspire to and a way to boost the human ego.  Think about the things that a machine could do but we chose to have humans do it because we like that personal touch.  
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6/25/2014 | 1:10:36 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I would hope so. Also the fact that humans add lots of unpredictable elements into the equation make them a lot more appealling over robots.
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6/26/2014 | 7:08:42 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I'm reminded of the Battle Bots TV series, while fun to watch for a few minutes I have to say that I couldn't remember a name of a single robot in the fights.  With human athletes you tend to put faces to names and you get a bit of personality through their play and through press coverage.  If someone built a homerun hitting robot that was on the verge of breaking the human homerun record in baseball I don't think many people would feel the same way that they felt when Barry Bonds passed Hank Aaron.  Even people who know nothing about baseball followed bonds that season. There is something about human achievement that draws us in and sports are a very visual way to see that achievement, robots can't replace that.
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7/2/2014 | 9:12:16 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
Well stated. Although I will say that when I have been watching the World Cup matches, I did not really remember the players from non-US teams. Except for the guy from Urugay who bit the Italian. And he was supposed to be a top class player.
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7/3/2014 | 7:24:12 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
Being an American and not really following soccer/FIFA I couldn't tell you the name of a single player but now I can tell you who the goalie was and give you the names of a couple players who were more active during the two matches I watched.   I couldn't tell you about the less active players though because I wasn't paying much attention to them, kind of how I think robot players would work.  Robot players would most likely do a lot of load sharing and not rely much on a single position.
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7/11/2014 | 9:11:47 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
That would mean that you would have to change the rules of sport they are playing. Robots would also be only as good as the software that programned them. Unless of course AI has really progressed!
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7/15/2014 | 5:01:01 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I don't think they would need to change the rules, but yes until AI improved greatly it would be a matter of who has the best software and hardware.  Kind of like a sports based arms race. I think making it competitive and putting money on the line would be a great way to speed up robot development.
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7/17/2014 | 11:26:41 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
And let's not forget to program in some personality. All the great athletes have a distincitve personality. In the case of the soccer players, also program in diving and crying.
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6/11/2014 | 11:34:51 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@Rich- I think we have to worry about it MORE. We've got all this data, too much data, and we're overwhelmed by it. How do we manage it all in a way that makes good use of the data?
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6/12/2014 | 1:30:39 AM
Cold and Heartless Data
I think Data-Driven management has it's place. But personally I would never allow it to surpress intuition.   Making decisions based on data often makes the person or company carrying this out to be  often cold and heartless - not the way I want to live my life or run a business.

A healthy balance can be found - believe it or not.
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6/13/2014 | 3:23:32 PM
Re: Cold and Heartless Data
yes, agree, but this is reality... how everything get calculated so to say...
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6/12/2014 | 7:26:42 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@Rich.  That's funny, but imagine a hive minded team with the queen sitting up in the box seats giving commands.  I could see it working, now we just have to find some players who don't mind a little infection and infestation.  On the bright side we could probably get them to play for sugar cubes.
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6/13/2014 | 3:24:20 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
could not agree more very funny :) Rich always able to bring smile to the network :)
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6/12/2014 | 10:20:18 PM
Re: Cold and Heartless Data
You crack me up Rich.   And I would like to Thank you for alerting me to obviously misconfigured user rating -  Apprentice ?  Really ?   Sounds like (forced) child labor if you ask me.   Maybe the good folks at IW are playing a cruel joke that has mirrored my career to date.

You know, start at the bottom, and stay there way too long. 

Well looks like I am paying my dues again - what is the next step on the organizational ladder ?    Strategist ?    Nice I like that one.  In keeping with the theme, I'll probably hold that longer than I should as well.   Until I can reach my real goal of becoming a Ninja.   

I always wanted to be a Ninja.
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6/13/2014 | 11:41:20 AM
Re: Cold and Heartless Data
@technocrati- Don't worry. I'm your Sith Lord and you are my apprentice. As long as you serve the dark side, you are fine.
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6/13/2014 | 11:44:12 AM
Re: Cold and Heartless Data
So speaking of the World Cup, last night we had the first major controversy of the World Cup. Brazil was granted a penalty on a flop. 

Can anyone imagine a computer reacting to that? Would it send angry texts? Send out little puffs of steam? 
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6/13/2014 | 2:55:31 PM
Re: Cold and Heartless Data
Dave... I think it would try to block everything... as anger of the system rage :)
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6/13/2014 | 8:50:32 PM
Re: Cold and Heartless Data
Nice. Will do ( or continue to do ).  Thanks David !  : ) 
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6/19/2014 | 10:17:28 AM
Re: World Cup Management: Data Or Intuition
Geeze, there's a lot to talk about here. It's not the first time we've used sports as a proving grounds for these kinds of up-and-coming technologies, and I'm sure it won't be the last... but it just may be the most important in our lifetimes. "Big Data'' is a term that I think still has a lot to prove to lot of people - maybe not to the IT person, or even the businessperson, anymore, but to the layperson. It sounds goofy. They need to see the results, and, as you rightly point out, those results have to be crystal clear, or people will poke holes in them. The average person doesn't know how this stuff works - to them it's just vague 'technology' working behind the scenes (I'm picturing my parents here) until they see it with their own eyes.

There's a question of ideals here, and not just efficiency as well. Should grandma use analytics to optimize her famous cookie recipe? Sports folks are very protective of their realm and traditions. The fact that any technology that tries to get in is vetted heavily and met with criticism makes it a great litmus test for how the public will react to, say, the self-driving cars that Rich brings up. As for analytics at this year's world cup? I'm sure they're already being used on most teams - but the kind that is really comprehensive, and makes decisions for you? I think that's still a few years off. We still have to put the 'smart' in 'smart analytics'. Worth thinking about in the mean time, though.
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6/19/2014 | 1:28:20 PM
Visceral experience
It's interesting that big data can see through enough noise to make any valid decision for the world cup. But you need not only top statisticians to find the data for the noise, you need a good coach who is experienced enough to know if that has a chance for success. Often a gut reaction is only years of experience voicing itself in a visceral way.
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6/24/2014 | 9:03:04 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
Well the humans are there for entertainment. That is what the robots provide.
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6/24/2014 | 11:29:13 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
There is a trailer from a sports gear manufacturer that shows the humans are replaced by clones to paly football (an evil genius and his company was behind it). Let us see how much tech we can digest.
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6/25/2014 | 10:28:26 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
Given the complexity of football these days, most of the humans have already been turned into robots-albeit highly paid ones! They need to come up with tech that will ensure the safety of the players. Too many serious injuries now. Worse are the ones that will affect these athletes later in life.
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6/25/2014 | 10:23:33 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
Glad i could help.


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