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Google Fit: Another Try At Health Data?
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danielcawrey
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danielcawrey,
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6/14/2014 | 9:48:22 PM
Google Fit Devices
Not only will Google likely announced Fit-related devices from manufacturers, I would expect them to do the normail I/O thing and give a wearable away to developers. 

The company has been very smart about this over the years. In order to influence developers, Google gives away hardware products at I/O in order to get developers using the products. 

Wearables will be a huge market. Question is, what about the potential privacy issues that these gadgets may bring?
PaulS681
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PaulS681,
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6/15/2014 | 9:38:23 AM
Re: Google Fit Devices

@danielcawrey... The unfortunate reality of privacy rears its ugly head. It is, or should be, a big concern and no doubt someone will find a way to bring it to the forefront. It will be interesting how this is handled.

Brian.Dean
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Brian.Dean,
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6/16/2014 | 1:41:57 AM
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@Paul, you are right, it's only a matter of time before an incident emerges that breaks privacy and causes damage. Having said that, the average consumer will gain lots of benefits from health monitoring (data enables the scientific method) and there will be a few incident where health monitoring manages to change the lives of individuals with serious health conditions, like insulin has helped diabetes.
Alison_Diana
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Alison_Diana,
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6/16/2014 | 5:29:15 PM
Re: Google Fit Devices
I don't think a wearable data breach is what we need to worry about in the healthcare space. I'm far more concerned about a breach occuring at a large insurer, a government agency (like the VA or Medicare), or one of these huge health systems than a Fitbit-like company. After all, Fitbit doesn't have your social, insurance info, or other data that's valued at about $50-$60, the value of your medical record. As I wrote last month, healthcare is far less secure than retail! That is not a good sign.
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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6/19/2014 | 1:09:10 AM
Re: Google Fit Devices
"I don't think a wearable data breach is what we need to worry about in the healthcare space. I'm far more concerned about a breach occuring at a large insurer, a government agency (like the VA or Medicare), or one of these huge health systems than a Fitbit-like company."

Alision, I meant not about data breach. But about Google's interest in this data. They are looking only for such big data and analysis, rather than anything else.
Alison_Diana
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Alison_Diana,
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6/19/2014 | 10:08:01 AM
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Oh sorry, @Gigi3. I totally agree with you! Google is (or perhaps already has) amassed so much data on individuals we'd probably be astounded at the accuracy of the picture they have on us. Between the platforms and applications they own -- Android, Gmail, Google, Google+, etc. -- and the company's search capabilities (Google, Maps, Drive, News...), Google tracks who we know, where we go, what we like to do, how we like to spend our free time and money, and what we're interested in, among many things. Our health is probably the only missing element (although Google probably already has a lot of this information from info we post ourselves, search for, have contacts for, etc.). 
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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7/1/2014 | 5:24:03 AM
Re: Google Fit Devices
"Between the platforms and applications they own -- Android, Gmail, Google, Google+, etc. -- and the company's search capabilities (Google, Maps, Drive, News...), Google tracks who we know, where we go, what we like to do, how we like to spend our free time and money, and what we're interested in, among many things. Our health is probably the only missing element (although Google probably already has a lot of this information from info we post ourselves, search for, have contacts for, etc.). "

Alision, I meant exactly the same thing. How knows how they are using such datas and for what purpose.
Alison_Diana
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Alison_Diana,
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7/2/2014 | 11:41:58 AM
Re: Google Fit Devices
Anecdotally, I don't think many people care what companies like Google or Apple or healthcare organizations are doing with their data. Personally, I disagree and am leary of these very ambiguous ToS that leave users' data open to all sorts of usage or interpretation. As i wrote in "When is Anonymous Data Really Anonymous?" I want standards and clear-cut definitions of what deidentified data is (and isn't) and how patients can opt-out (or ideally, opt-in) for usage. But i'm not holding my breath.
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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7/3/2014 | 3:51:33 AM
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"Anecdotally, I don't think many people care what companies like Google or Apple or healthcare organizations are doing with their data. Personally, I disagree and am leary of these very ambiguous ToS that leave users' data open to all sorts of usage or interpretation"

Alision, why companies are worring about such data? Only the end patient has to be worry. I know many medical/pharmaceutical companies are collecting such datas from hospitals and doctors. Thereafter they are using such datas for medical trial experiments with patients.
Michelle
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Michelle,
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6/16/2014 | 10:18:45 AM
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@Daniel I'm curious to see what gadgets are given out at I/O this year. I would expect a wearable device too. I expect a snazzy health analytics dashboard to go with. Tracking and storing data is only part of the package. I think we'll eventually see a pro and standard version of health analytics from the new Google Fit service.
PaulS681
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PaulS681,
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6/15/2014 | 9:33:48 AM
health data is good

I think this stuff is cool and makes it fun to stay healthy. An easy way to record and track activity and blood pressure makes people more inclined to monitor it. I think Google will have a little more success this time around.

Alison_Diana
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Alison_Diana,
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6/16/2014 | 5:25:38 PM
Re: health data is good
I agree -- and with Glass, Google already has a differentiator from Apple and Samsung, which is no doubt what it planned all along.
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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6/16/2014 | 12:56:02 AM
Google Fit
"Google's ongoing competition with Apple to dominate the mobile device market will continue as wearable devices proliferate. Apple announced at its Worldwide Developer Conference last week that it plans to ship a health app as part of iOS 8 later this year to store health and fitness data."

Thomas, thanks for this update. I think Apples latest announcement made Google to release their product much before others get productizing their idea. Since Google is a software company they have to depend their vendors like Samsung, HTC, LG etc for hardware and implementation.
Brian.Dean
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Brian.Dean,
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6/16/2014 | 1:55:15 AM
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Gigi3, interesting point, it makes me wonder whether Microsoft is in a better situation with the acquiring of Nokia, since having a hardware unit makes it easier for developers to plan ahead. If Microsoft could take the open source model for software and hardware in the wearable's arena, then innovation and achieving market scale could be gained in no time.
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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6/19/2014 | 1:06:15 AM
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"interesting point, it makes me wonder whether Microsoft is in a better situation with the acquiring of Nokia, since having a hardware unit makes it easier for developers to plan ahead. If Microsoft could take the open source model for software and hardware in the wearable's arena, then innovation and achieving market scale could be gained in no time."

Brian,  that can also be possible. That's the case for Apple also, but Google has to depend third part vendors like Samsung, HTC, LG etc for their hardware.
Alison_Diana
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Alison_Diana,
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6/19/2014 | 10:04:54 AM
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Yes, Google is dependent on third parties for its hardware, unlike Microsoft and Apple. But don't you think it's unlikely leading phone or tablet vendors would abandon Android/Google, given the platform's success? Apple doesn't seem likely to alter its proprietary approach to the market. Microsoft could. It is, after all, under new leadership and its cloud-focused vision seems more empathetic with the open source approach.
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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7/1/2014 | 5:28:28 AM
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"But don't you think it's unlikely leading phone or tablet vendors would abandon Android/Google, given the platform's success? Apple doesn't seem likely to alter its proprietary approach to the market. Microsoft could. It is, after all, under new leadership and its cloud-focused vision seems more empathetic with the open source approach."

Alison, they know such things can happen one day. That's the reason they made Android as an open source. Why they sold their Motorola mobility to Lenovo? They now well that if they start using Motorola hardware, Samsung, LG, HTC etc can come up with their own OS in future. They may be against their business interest.
Alison_Diana
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7/2/2014 | 11:45:19 AM
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I agree, @Gigi3. In most areas, an open platform wins. So far, it has not always been the case in smartphones and tablets -- although Android's marketshare is bigger than Apple's iOS, unsurprising given the number of vendors and products in the Android category vs. the Apple-only iOS approach. I can't foresee that most users would restrict themselves to an Apple-only healthcare approach if they think through the process and realize they could be locking themselves and their very personal health data onto one vendor's product plans. That said, I am not sure how much thought most users put into their app usage. By focusing on consumers, Apple could well overcome the negative connotations of a closed platform.
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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7/3/2014 | 3:48:26 AM
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"I can't foresee that most users would restrict themselves to an Apple-only healthcare approach if they think through the process and realize they could be locking themselves and their very personal health data onto one vendor's product plans. That said, I am not sure how much thought most users put into their app usage. By focusing on consumers, Apple could well overcome the negative connotations of a closed platform."

Alision, you are right. Apple is a single vendor using iOS and they have the full control. Before listing any third part apps in istore, they will do a thorough scrutiny to make sure its secured. But that's not the case with Android. Many third party players are using android and anyone can develop app and it can be get listed in Google play without much scrutiny.I mean Google have a less control over the App developers.
Alison_Diana
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Alison_Diana,
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7/3/2014 | 9:48:32 AM
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Indeed, @Gigi3. Of course, we've seen cases where Google (Apple too) has pulled apps from its store -- often after there's been a user outcry. I am not sure how much (if at all) either Google or Apple scrutinizes ISVs' ToS, however.
Gigi3
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Gigi3,
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7/7/2014 | 3:31:34 AM
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"Of course, we've seen cases where Google (Apple too) has pulled apps from its store -- often after there's been a user outcry. I am not sure how much (if at all) either Google or Apple scrutinizes ISVs' ToS, however."

Alision, I heard that for research and analysis purposes we can buy such datas from third parties.


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