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Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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6/20/2014 | 3:46:01 PM
Re: Amazon, not in Apple's fashion class
Saying "feels icky to me" hits it square on the head. At least when Apple manipulates its customers it leaves them feeling good about it, judging from product loyalty. Amazon should have devoted the R&D money to fixing some of the problems on its site.
Charlie Babcock
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6/20/2014 | 3:29:41 PM
Amazon, not in Apple's fashion class
I agree that Amazon shouldn't be singled out for producing a device that helps you buy stuff from them. Both the iPhone and Android universes had their own "extract dollars from the consumer" strategies. Apple stands out with its former ability to make it high fashion to do this, with eager participation from the loyal consumer. Android has clearly fallen short on that measure, and Amazon, well, if it's so obvious that you're producing a device through which you plan to sell stuff, then you've fallen out of the fashion window entirely. Being late has its penalties.
MrEdofCourse
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6/20/2014 | 3:19:29 PM
Re: Convenient Oversight
" iPhone's number one purpose is to sell apps, which Apple does in great quantities."

The number one purpose of the iPhone is to make a profit selling the iPhone itself.  The profit from content and services pales in comparison to the profit off the iPhone.

For Google, it makes money primarily off advertising with services and content being secondary.

Amazon is aiming to make money off content and product sales.

All 3 models have their pros and cons.  Amazon usually has fantastic hardware and a fairly low price as they build out their entire ecosystem.  Personally, I prefer the iPhone and I'm pretty entrenched in Apple's entire ecosystem (Macs, iPads, Apple TV), but I do have a Nexus 7 and a Fire TV, so I can see the pros and cons of each.
danielcawrey
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6/20/2014 | 3:09:29 PM
Re: Convenient Oversight
Yes, the Fire Phone is built specifically with the idea that it will increase Amazon's retail sales. 

I don't see anything wrong with that. Let the market decide whether or not that is a viable smartphone option. 

The big concern, I think, is the lack of apps. If the Fire Phone cannot compete with Android apps, or make it difficult for existing apps to port, then I think that there is an issue. 
eboneezer
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6/20/2014 | 2:33:02 PM
icky feeling
"There's something about the Fire Phone's tie-in to a single, giant purveyor of goods that feels icky to me. I'd rather not feel that way about my smartphone, and I'm betting others might feel the same......."

This statement kind of contradicts the complaint earlier in the article about no having the Google Play Store does it not?  Google the omnipresent, all encompassing purveyor makes me feel icky.

 

 
DavidB702
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6/20/2014 | 2:14:31 PM
The biggest problem
I'm invested in Amazon's infrastructre, I have their credit card, Prime, a Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, my young son has a Kindle Fire HD 8.9, I have a FireTV box.  Honestly none of that "problem" bothers me, nor does lack of access to Google Play store (installing any available Android app is simple on my Fire HDX, and it's not "rooted" and Google Chrome is it's default web browser).  The Amazon app store is available on essentially every device I use (I own no Apple product), and once I make a purchase there the app/content is available to all my devices (even my BlackBerry!), so for me that's WIN with respect to this phone.  No, the biggest "problem" with the Fire smartphone is the AT&T exclusivity.  If I wanted a Fire smartphone I'd have to talk my wife into buying a new iPhone and us switching off of Verizon, neither of which for me are within the realm of possibility.  For launching this phone as a AT&T exclusive I'm really disappointed in Amazon.

 

 
MattN577
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6/20/2014 | 2:01:25 PM
Well said!
Your last two paragraphs perfectly sum up my reaction. Thank you!
progman2000
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6/20/2014 | 1:50:05 PM
Ugh, no thanks
A crippled Android os is a major turnoff, one of the biggest pitfalls with the Kindle Fire.  And the 'Mayday' feature is not going to sell past that.  This thing must have a specific target audience...
Shane M. O'Neill
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6/20/2014 | 1:22:45 PM
Re: Convenient Oversight
Every mobile phone and OS provider has something to sell, be it apps or mobile ads. Sure, Apple and Google had ulterior motives for creating mobile phones and tablets. But with Amazon the ulterior motives are MUCH more glaring and self-serving.
JohnnyM585
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6/20/2014 | 12:56:10 PM
gimmick
Here....buy this phone.  It will help you buy more stuff from us.
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