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Joyent Joins Containers Debate
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Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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6/25/2014 | 12:57:38 PM
Some irrational exuberance going around?
Got problems with OpenStack? Not sure the answer is a proprietary system, built on a niche OS, comprising bleeding-edge technology that no one can promise can be secured. But hey, points for a colorful quote.
Laurianne
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Laurianne,
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6/25/2014 | 3:42:21 PM
"Niche players"
"Niche" cloud players have surprised us before. Can Joyent win the customer loyalty necessary to make an impact here?
Charlie Babcock
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6/25/2014 | 6:16:36 PM
Joyent, our one example of Solaris-style containers?
I think there is wide acceptance of the notion that Solaris containers, on which SmartOS and SmartData Center are based, were designed with security in mind and can be used in a multi-tenant environment. Linux containers, on the other hand, will be presumed leaky until proven otherwise and of uncertain value in multi-tenant environments. That is, you need to know none of the other tenants is hostile to run them in multi-tenant mode. One way to use Linux containers would be for one customer to put many containers on one server, no other tenant allowed. What's intersting about Joyent is it's got both containers and Solaris-style security on the containerized host. Google knows containers, but it's still keeping Linux containers inside a virtual machine, I believe, except in its internal operations.
Charlie Babcock
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Charlie Babcock,
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6/26/2014 | 7:46:46 PM
And another thing....
Google probably has the most experience with Linux containers on the planet, having run its speedy search engine and other internal operations inside them. But we can't expect its release to open source of its Kupernetes container code to solve the security issue. Kupernetes takes care of provisioning, doesn't have much to do with security. When it comes to the public cloud part of Google, it's written its own container management system to provide security in a multi-tenant environment. For those hoping it will make that open source too, better not hold your breath. Blue will not become you.


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