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nomii
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nomii,
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6/28/2014 | 2:21:22 AM
Re: Weather Changes
I think the idea is not doable. The lenhth of 1056 miles is not a small tally. I believe that you cannot predict mother nature what it has stored for us. I believe that better ideas will be a underground city :).

Do you feel that its doable. Lets debate.
Angelfuego
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6/27/2014 | 11:15:28 PM
Re: Weather Changes
I'm skeptical how these walls would hold up in a strong earthquake.
Angelfuego
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Angelfuego,
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6/27/2014 | 11:13:03 PM
Re: Weather Changes
I think we also need to be more respectful of other aspects of the environment. Such as: recycling, polluting the water and air, not littering, conserving energy, saving the rain forests, etc.
Angelfuego
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6/27/2014 | 11:04:13 PM
Re: Weather Changes
It is true. Years ago, I never worried about natural disasters,until recent years when I noticed more than one first hand. It seems like natural disasters have also increased in its frequency around the world, unless the news coverage is just making such stories more prevalent. I hope we can find more ways to prevent global warming and natural disasters. It's devastating.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/27/2014 | 6:40:34 PM
Re: Weather Changes
@tekedge- It's true. As the climate change will repeatedly make disasters worse, we need to start thinking bigger and raising awareness. A giant wall might not be the right answer, but something big better happen or we're all in toruble.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/27/2014 | 6:39:24 PM
Re: Half Baked?
@Lorna- That's what I think. Though i wonder if that wouldn't create the world's scariest laser as the sun was gathered and reflected by a giant wall. We'd be like the ant in the magnifying glass. Still, I think the idea of adding on to what would otherwise be just a brick wall is the way to go.
Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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6/27/2014 | 5:18:24 PM
Re: Half Baked?
If we top the walls with solar panels, all the better. 
tekedge
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tekedge,
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6/27/2014 | 4:18:58 PM
Weather Changes
Interesting facts about this much worrisome aspect of enviornment. Loved the optimism that there could be solutions. Having said that to bring this awareness among the world community and convincing them to work towards solutions is such a massive task that it is frightening. But thx for bringing bac the optimism for working towards a better enviornment
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/27/2014 | 2:14:22 PM
Re: Half Baked?
@Rob- No, that's why the walls can't be empty shells. If you added vertical farming or another industry that created jobs and was also sustainable it changes the balance of the equation. 

I'll be the firs tto admit that if you can't get people to the walls it is too expensive to do anything worthwhile.

As for the environmental impact, that's where I'm more inclined to agree with you. As I said, the dust bowl is a big warning against this. We'd have to be very careful. 

That said, I feel like this is just a part of human existence. One of the reasons the car was incented (and it was marketed this way early in its existence) was to help get the horse poop off the street. It was a response to a change in the environment humans caused. Then the car put CO2 in the air and we're building electric cars and we're building wind turbines to power the electric cars. Now we're findign out the wind turbines are changing the weather where they are. No doubt, we'll find that solar panels en masse will do the same thing.

What will we do? We'll continually find that our solution to one problem creates a new one. And then, we'll solve that one. 

Is that sustainable? I guess it depends on whether you are an optimist or not. But we solved the dust bowl problem. So I don't see why if you have something which will create solutions to problems (in this case, the lack of food and danger form natural disaster) why you don't try to solve that problem first and then solve the next consquences when they come.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/27/2014 | 2:06:00 PM
Re: Punch Line?
@somedude8- Granted, it is difficult to test, and it may not work. And frankly that's why we'll never do it, because we're not going to try a $200 billion experiment.

That said, man made structures and much small land features change the weather all the time. One only has to watch the fog go into San Francisco to see what happens. Large cities actually alter the weather quite a bit. Concrete absorbs heat differently than soil. For instance, the average temperature of Brooklyn and Westchester differ by over 3 degrees despite being just a few miles apart. 

Three degrees of air temp difference over such a short range produces major effects on air patterns.



Since we're talking about cold air and hot air mixing, changing those absorbtion properties of the surrounding lan and breakign up the wind will have a major effect.

Simulations (and observaitons in similar areas) say this will work. 
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