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Windows XP Stayin' Alive
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Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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7/1/2014 | 4:39:44 PM
Chore Avoidance
I think people just look at an OS upgrade as something between an unpleasant chore (for more technical types) and a terrifying ordeal that could end up with their PC being a doorstop. It just makes sense to upgrade an OS at the same time you buy new hardware, and those systems are presumably working just fine. 

A crashed hard drive or broken display is more likely than security warnings to make people drop XP.
mak63
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mak63,
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7/1/2014 | 4:53:41 PM
resilient
"You've got to hand it to people who still use Windows XP -- they're a resolute bunch"
It's not that we are all that resolute, sometimes we don't have many choices; or people don't know any better, even with the annoying end of support box popping up every so often.

I'm guilty of installing (recently, I might add) XP on old computers'laptops. I tried with Linux, but old computers don't get along very well with new Linux distros, or people just don't like it.
Michael Endler
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Michael Endler,
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7/1/2014 | 5:00:29 PM
Re: resilient
Very true. While some people are on XP out of negligence or obliviousness, many are on it for other reasons, ranging from financial considerations, to XP actually being well-suited (Microsoft support or not) for their needs. Still, it's mind-boggling how many users it still has!
Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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7/1/2014 | 5:41:06 PM
Re: resilient
Why dump a perfectly functional piece of hardware? We have several XP-era PCs that work just fine. Now, we did move to Win 7, but even if we hadn't I suspect they'd be chugging along.
Thomas Claburn
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Thomas Claburn,
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7/1/2014 | 6:55:48 PM
Re: resilient
How many of XP users are actually actively using it? Aren't many corporate machines that have XP out of inertia?
danielcawrey
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danielcawrey,
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7/2/2014 | 2:57:19 PM
Re: resilient
Just because Microsoft will release compelling hardware doesn't mean that Windows 8/8.1 will become a success all of a sudden. 

The real problem is with the software and the fact that it is a major change from Windows 7. I like Windows 7. I don't like Windows 8. It is really too confusing to use as a desktop OS. And trying to use it in an enterprise environment? I couldn't begin to imagine what that might be like...
Michael Endler
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Michael Endler,
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7/2/2014 | 7:14:52 PM
Re: resilient
These statistics are drawn from the public Internet, so I don't think we can extrapolate much regarding businesses in particular. Microsoft claims a much lower percentage of its corporate customers are still on XP, and many of those who are run the OS in closed environments, where they wouldn't, as far as I know, touch the Net Application scanners. Likewise, the ATMs and other embedded systems that run XP wouldn't be reflected in these stats.
jastroff
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jastroff,
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7/1/2014 | 7:19:39 PM
Re: resilient
Agree, that the stats are pretty startling -- may say more about Microsoft and a large company's ability to be a trend setter.


Would like the stats to tell me what percentage of people use it in a business setting and personal setting. And how embedded it is into how a company runs.

I have a few friends who have not upgraded from XP. All they do is send email and use AOL. And for that, XP works fine.
anon7449354690
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anon7449354690,
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7/2/2014 | 1:27:42 AM
overlooked xp
XP is in use by a lot of point of sale systems and proprietary hardware systems that are kept on private networks, so they don't require internet update support.  XP is still very popular in India, which has a lot of people in it who often pirate that OS.  XP continued to be used in Virtual Machine session hosts that again, do not interact much with the internet, nor have any need for new hardware drivers.  I know of many companies that block internet access for employees and run private email servers, so their employee workstations manage just fine on XP, as do most public libraries continue to run XP and as their card member workstations are read only, and set to wipe any storage and block program installs, they manage fine on XP and have no budget to upgrade.
jastroff
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jastroff,
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7/2/2014 | 6:08:28 AM
Re: overlooked xp
So is it time to treat an OS like a car? I can still get my 56 Chevy fixed in an aftermarket mode, but not by the manufacturer. Who is dropping the ball here? MSFT or anoher company which can come along and support XP with MSFT's help?
Li Tan
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Li Tan,
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7/2/2014 | 9:23:35 AM
Re: overlooked xp
This is  a good but tricky question. In my opinion old car is not fullly comparable to Windows XP. For old car, you need regular maintenance and repair if you want to  keep it functioning. For Windows XP, you can let it run almost forever,  assume that you don't  care about the security holes. I am not sure if MS will support any 3rd party vendor to provide certain kind of limited support to XP. But I suppose the answer is most  likely "No".
jastroff
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jastroff,
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7/2/2014 | 11:27:28 AM
Re: overlooked xp
>> For Windows XP, you can let it run almost forever,  assume that you don't  care about the security holes.

 

Well, isn't it the security holes that will eventually bring down yoru computer?


I'm sure there are plenty of  3rd party vendors supporting XP systems worldwide. That MSFT decides not to probably has to do with their strategic plan of moving forward to new things.
Whoopty
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Whoopty,
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7/2/2014 | 10:06:22 AM
Re: overlooked xp
That's a pretty interesting idea. The market is certainly open for someone to step in, but whether Microsoft would allow the kind of low level access likely needed to maintain the operating system is another thing altogether. 
jastroff
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jastroff,
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7/2/2014 | 11:30:15 AM
Re: overlooked xp
>> whether Microsoft would allow the kind of low level access likely needed to maintain the operating system is another thing altogether.

Good point. Unlike old furniture, you can't get access to what you need, or build it.

Computers are disposable items for a long time now. Imagine if you had to replace your car as often as you replace your comptuer. They are not built to last
BGREENE292
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BGREENE292,
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7/2/2014 | 12:52:39 PM
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XP GETS NEW SECURITY PROTECTION

End of Microsoft support is by no means the end of XP. The antivirus vendor Malwarebytes recently released Anti-Exploit, a product which uses advanced, real-time methods to detect even zero-day attacks, based on behavior and certain traits of the latest threats. https://www.malwarebytes.org/antiexploit/premium/

There is a free version, as well, with a subset of the premium features.

Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit brings to the mass consumer market the idea of combating malware intrusion on a real-time basis, instead of a constant stream of patches from Microsoft  This solution is elegantly simple-- years ago, IBM suggested behavior analysis is the only way to detect and stem the more advanced system intrusions, relegating the standard list of malware signatures to the category of dated technology.

Obviously, the Malwarebytes product dramatically improves the security situation for the XP population. Those who are taking a last look at leaving XP for security concerns may be able to reconsider.

Those who remain with XP do so for a variety of reasons, but sentimental attachment is the least of them. First, the typical XP system simply works well, and is the most field-tested Windows in Microsoft history, with more than a decade of user experience incorporated into its design.

Second, XP is surprisingly light and efficient with even older hardware, compared to later Windows versions, and its already small footprint can be trimmed beyond that minimal size. That is especially important with legacy equipment and budgets that will not bear massive acquisitions, simply to keep up with what Microsoft claims is the next-best-thing.

Third, XP is still among the most widely-distributed versions of Windows among developers and products. Every product seems to have an XP driver, or failing that, one can be found easily which will work in the majority of cases.

XP would have remained even more popular, had Microsoft not terrified users into leaving XP behind, and stampeded them into buying a later Windows version. That Microsoft would do such a thing indicates how popular XP has become. Indeed, the majority of consumers moves to new versions of Windows for one reason, only-- they are forced to take the version of Windows already installed on their next computer.

Were users able to choose their own Windows version, Microsoft might have a crisis of non-adoption on its hands. Quite simply, XP deserves its good reputation, representing countless hours of user investment in product improvement over its long life. Without exaggeration, Windows users represent the world's largest group of beta testers who actually pay for the opportunity. With XP, at least, these hundreds of millions of users now can enjoy their highly efficient, well-developed operating system indefinitely, without End-of-Life migration demands from Microsoft.

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rrich209
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rrich209,
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7/2/2014 | 1:06:16 PM
Windows XP
I've found that software that I use on Windows XP simply works. Period. A prime example is my audio mixer.  It's easier for me to change settings on my XP than it is to on my Windows 7. Don't get me started about Windows 8 and 8.1. I've had to totally reboot my laptop shortly after advancing to 8.1 as it developed a wierd anonmoly of flahsing between the  app page and the start page-- which prevented me from getting anything done. That meant I had to get everything reset to factory settings, which meant that I lost the software that I paid to run on the machine. I've had difficulty with XP, but this was a systamatic snafu that was a huge time-suck.
Jim52
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7/2/2014 | 4:15:55 PM
xp user
The biggest problem that i have is that all of my hardware is compatible with xp. It costs thousands of dollars to change printers, scanners and other devices that are connected to my xp box. Microsoft updates to new operating systems and let's the hardware go to the wayside. There is an attitude that everyone must have endless resources to constantly upgrade the external hardware even though the hardware they have works perfectly fine.

 

Jim L.
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bttlk,
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7/2/2014 | 6:56:53 PM
Re: just see one time
All of my peripherals worked on 8.0 and 8.1 when I installed those new OS's.   I was on XP and Vista.  5 printer/scanners, portable drives, etc.  No driver problems. 8.1 discovered them and installed them automatically, I did not have to hunt for drivers or install them.  Some printers were a few years old.
PedroGonzales
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7/11/2014 | 7:05:06 PM
Re: XP --> Ubuntu --> Windows Server 2012?
I upgraded my old PC  XP computer to windows 7 a while ago.  I'm pretty satisfied. Many people are really jeopardizing their security if they continue to use XP.
mattb078
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7/17/2014 | 5:07:46 PM
Windows XP software protection
While I am not surprized about the number of people on Windows XP, I think the numbers are even higher. Some on this board are commenting on the dangers and risk there are to not switching, but if only it were that easy!

For those of you who are still on Windows XP and are looking for a software to protect it, try Rollback XP. It is an instant recovery software that is specifically for Windows XP users. If your computer were to get infected by a virus or malware, all you would need to do is roll back. This software works on a snapshot format in where if your computer were to get infected by a malware or virus, all you would need to go is go back to a previous snapshot. If you are interested or want to know more information, click on the following link: http://www.horizondatasys.com/en/products_and_solutions.aspx?ProductId=40


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