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David Wagner
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7/9/2014 | 4:04:57 PM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
@SaneIt- No doubt you are right about that. I fear the "Redditification" of Kickstarter where the funniest post gets the most funding. But if it happens, no doubt Indiegogo or some other copycat will take the "serious business" and the community will move on. 

I'm guessing that crowdfunding sites will be like social networks-- all the cool kids will jump around every few years anyway.
David Wagner
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7/9/2014 | 4:03:19 PM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
@alison- It annoyed me and amused me at the same time. I was so conflicted I think it showed that i was mostly just jealous. Ultimately, what I decided is that what he was rewarded for was his writing. I don't know if he should get $70,000 (and counting) for the writing. But what he did was entertain us. He spoofed Kickstarter, and people "paid" to read the story.

Basically the way some artists have been putting out their records for free and telling fans to pay what they want for them.
David Wagner
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7/9/2014 | 4:01:13 PM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
why bother with that when you can just hit up a bunch of people who think, "that looks totally cool!" :)


@vnewman- It makes me wonder if we're pitching to VC's wrong. Maybe all we need is a good youtube movies, some pics of the prototype and a catchy short description.
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7/9/2014 | 9:36:35 AM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
The potato salad project annoyed me -- not so much the guy who set it up, but the people who supported it. I mean, c'mon folk! And of course, there was then a flood of copycats seeking funding for all sorts of different salads and food. Must say, if I had a serious, good idea on Kickstarter and nobody was funding it, I'd have been heartbroken!
SaneIT
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7/9/2014 | 7:08:35 AM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
Yes I saw the potato salad project.  What's cool is that he's not just taking the money and running, he's going to have a get together for the supporters.  My fear is that this is going to cause a ripple effect into serious projects.  There will no doubt be a rash of people trying to do another viral Kickstarter and it's going to make the serious ones look like used car salesmen.
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7/8/2014 | 8:05:46 PM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
@David - so true, I mean, typically they want a business plan and a well-thought out presentation - why bother with that when you can just hit up a bunch of people who think, "that looks totally cool!" :)
David Wagner
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7/8/2014 | 1:53:11 PM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
@vnewman2- You might be right. Also, who knows VC people with millions of dollars? It sometimes takes years to build those kinds of investment contacts.
David Wagner
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7/8/2014 | 1:52:14 PM
Re: A Tiptoe Through Kickstarter
@zerox203- Thanks!

Interestingly enough, I saw a great presentation at the Games Developer's Conference by a guy who has funded video games through Kickstarter. And he basically said that Kickstarter was a terrible place to fund video games. He said you are actually better off getting money in a bank you've never worked with before than Kickstarter.

He said the problem with Kickstarter is that you're basically begging. And people have reached a begging limit on the site. So game developers have to increasingly give more and more to get people involved. For instance, the right to design a level or name a monster.

He said that basically, if you want to fund a game on Kickstarter now, be prepared to give away the game design to your investors. I can't swear to the accuracy of this, but it was a compelling argument.
David Wagner
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7/8/2014 | 1:49:06 PM
Re: Ricky the cockroach
@SaneIT- Right, I agree. But did you see this? A guy has raised over $40,000 to make potato salad. Not a new kind of potato salad to sell as a product. He just always wanted to try to make potato salad. He asked for $10. He got $40,000 and counting.

Sometimes it isn't even about the idea, but the presentation. My favorite was what he offered if you gave him $1: I will say your name out loud while making the potato salad.
David Wagner
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7/8/2014 | 1:44:38 PM
Re: city planning?
@soozyg- For the city planning to work it would requires dozens or hundres of people travelling through the same space to get an accurate read. For instance, i don't find parks relaxing at all. Too much open space. Not enough happening. I like to be in busy places, If you only went by me, we'd demolish parks and replace them with laser tag stadiums (an awesome idea!).

Ultimately the individual stress of a person on a given day would get washed out in the larger stats.
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