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Google CEO: Fight Unemployment With Job Sharing
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zaious
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zaious,
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7/9/2014 | 1:37:40 PM
Re: Job sharing doesn't have to be 2 for 1
A copmay might offer, "Look, I cen get another employee to work with your group of 5 people. Your workload will decrease, but your pay will go down by 20%" Will anyone agree? It is getting difficult for people to save for retirement funds these days. Creation of jibs has to come through some other way.

Again, it is true that many companies reduced theri workforce but the workload is , essentially, the same. This is a kind of burden on existing emplyees.
Henrisha
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Henrisha,
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7/9/2014 | 1:24:32 PM
Re: Job sharing doesn't have to be 2 for 1
It is more idealistic than realistic or practical. In this day and age where you can get cheaper labor elsewhere, where jobs and money and budgets are tight, and everyone is just looking to scrimp. Don't even get me started on outsourcing.
Henrisha
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Henrisha,
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7/9/2014 | 1:23:36 PM
Re: Job sharing doesn't have to be 2 for 1
Unfortunately, for most firms, higher revenue > happy employees, so unless some great shift comes that'll convince upper management to sign off on that and get more people for job sharing, then I don't see that happening just yet.
anon8304916915
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anon8304916915,
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7/9/2014 | 1:22:37 PM
Obstacles to Techno-Utopia
So the only obstacle to job-sharing and techno-utopia is the high cost of housing?

Even the Soviets were able to provide affordable housing to their workers.

Unfortunately though, it isn't an engineering problem.

It is a political problem called Proposition 13.
JasonO599
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JasonO599,
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7/9/2014 | 12:57:54 PM
Re: Yeah Sue...
"I notice there was no suggestion that, to help with ongoing diminution of pay for the average worker, the CEO's should pay share. "

Market forces say that a CEO is harder to replace than a worker bee. And if you add all the IP and secrets in the mix, a company that does not pay its CEO riskes the danger of losing serious competitive advantage. 

I am not a big believer in such a pay disparity and it does seem unethical, but large companies do have a dilema if they want top leadership talent. The best solution is that consumers stop buying products for these type of companies and patron other companies. 
anon6027605817
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anon6027605817,
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7/9/2014 | 12:57:43 PM
Re: Job sharing could work in some instances
Exactly.

The model I'm thinking of is you have 2 100% unemployed people.  If the job is right, they both could work 50% which is better then 0% and still come out ahead and bring in more than an unemployment check. This also gives them the opportunity to get their foot in the door.  This is also attractive to stay at home parents who want to ease back into the workforce.

I can see how employers could abuse this and make all jobs 50% to save on benefits. That would suck, but they would run the risk of losing their entire employee base.

Make it an option like 4/10 and 3.5/12
JasonO599
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JasonO599,
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7/9/2014 | 12:53:17 PM
Re: Propagate wealth at the low end of the income scale
"Some innovations concentrate wealth, and some propagate wealth. "

Great point, thanks for that. The not so humorous thing is that laize faire types always talk about the latter but not the former. I am pro technology and a capitalist, however I do realize there are limitations and if we aren't open about these limitations and how they effect our society in the next 10 years, we may be in for a rude awakening. 
JasonO599
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JasonO599,
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7/9/2014 | 12:49:49 PM
Re: Disconnected...
"If you cut the work week to 20 hours and halve the salary, the talented will just get two jobs.  Effect on unemployment -- zero."

Some will get a job, but many will freelance and start their own business, so the effect is much greater than you illustrate. 
JasonO599
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JasonO599,
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7/9/2014 | 12:46:45 PM
Re: Here's Reality For You
"Greed comes in many forms, from the politicians to the CEO's of corporations to the lobbyist that keep technology at bay to keep their cash flow coming in "

 

What is so damaging is that technology has allowed those that have money to invest in high return businesses without making a commitment to hiring labor. In fact, a VC can invest in tech and hire a handful of people, then the business could fail, and they sale the IP in parts, and still make a decent return (Not one in VC standards, but a decent return for a blue collar standards). 

Never since legalized slavery has labor been in such a disadvantage. It is not because VC's are evil and just want to shut everyone out, it is because no one hires labor out of the goodness of their heart, they have to have a strong return for that investment. This is captialism at its core. 

Until we as a society open our eyes and work together for a better solution, we will end up with a really bad solution. 
JasonO599
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JasonO599,
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7/9/2014 | 12:40:42 PM
Re: Job sharing doesn't have to be 2 for 1
I don't believe they were fixed on 2 to 1 but just gave an example to illustrate the benefits. Obviously, sharing is far from being able to be implemented as many people would lose out, the housing market could see a record fall if you reduce everyones wages across the board. It is a great idea, but maybe more idealistic than realistic.
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