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Geekend: Doing Nothing Is Worse Than Hurting Yourself
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David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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7/11/2014 | 2:32:21 PM
Re: Meditation
@jastro- I'll admit that one of the reasons I hate yoga classes is the number of them that make me sit quietly in a room full of people. I have no problem  sitting quietly alone. But I keep wondering to myself why I've decided to leave my house to exercise, and now I'm sitting around with a bunch of strangers doing nothing.

So clearly me and mediation don't get along. Or at least me and social norms don't. So I get this to some degree. I'm just said people can't let it go when they're home.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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7/11/2014 | 2:27:38 PM
Re: Meditation
@willjordan- I think that's great. I hear many people who practice meditation say that it is different than sitting and thinking. I personally can't tell the difference. Do you see one, and do you think it matters for this? Should we teach everyone how to meditate?
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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7/11/2014 | 2:26:03 PM
Re: Pain or nothing
@SaneIT- I assume they drink themselves into a stupor and shoot the lights out like Elvis used to do. :)

No, i have no idea. I have no problem either. It is so tempting to make fun of these people until you realize it is MOST people.
majenkins
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majenkins,
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7/11/2014 | 10:09:07 AM
Interesting
Some 75% of the men and 25% of the women actually pressed the button at least once, shocking themselves on purpose. They couldn't sit there for 15 minutes alone with their thoughts, so they broke things up by hurting themselves. Are you sure that is why they did it? Did you ask them? If so do you really believe them? Perhaps the real reason was they wondered if the button would really administer the shock.
jastroff
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jastroff,
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7/11/2014 | 10:02:43 AM
Re: Meditation
>> try sitting in a room for 15 minutes without anything to distract you. Report the results here. Did the experience give you a different perspective on some of the issues broached above? Could you handle "the hole?"

Yep. No problem. If one is trained to meditate, then those 15 minutes are a snap. I know folks who can sit all day in silent meditation. I'm not religious, or follow any religion. The issue is getting myself to meditate! I'd rather watch TV. But, since you gave me 15 lovely minutes, I took them for silent meditation. Five years ago it would not have been as easy. But, you can change that with instruction and practice.

>> Being alone and doing nothing becomes uncomfortable even if no one sees us. That's why when we're home we'd rather waste hours and hours watching YouTube or TV than sit quietly with our thoughts.

We are all over stimulated by life, and most of us have not been taught how do dial it down through meditation or silent prayer, sadly.

Happy Geekend, @dave
willjordan
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willjordan,
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7/11/2014 | 9:42:45 AM
Meditation
I don't have any trouble with 15 to 30 minutes of meditation, which some people would consider doing nothing. But then, my attention span can include attention to my thoughts and my heartbeat and breathing.
SaneIT
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SaneIT,
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7/11/2014 | 8:06:32 AM
Pain or nothing
All I can say is wow.  I know that attention spans have been shrinking for some time but it's hard to imagine not being able to be still for 15 minutes and enjoy it.  How do these people sleep at night?  How do they work through complex problems?  Do they daydream?  Down time is one of my most prized opportunities.  I love a few minutes alone in my head to work things out so this is all very interesting to me.  I can't imagine being so bored that shocking myself sounds like a better alternative.
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