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Hidden iOS Services Bypass Security
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Thomas Claburn
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Thomas Claburn,
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7/21/2014 | 4:51:24 PM
Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
People would be up in arms if they learned the home they bought or the car they bought carried surveillance technology that authorities could enable at their convenience. Yet somehow it's acceptable in electronic devices?

Apple says it "designed the iOS platform with security at its core." It sounds like what Apple meant is that it designed the iOS platform with security that can be ignored.
Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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7/21/2014 | 5:04:51 PM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
It's not acceptable, and if Microsoft or Google were the snooper in question, people would screaming a whole lot louder. Can't say I get the appeal of iThings, but you have to hand it to Apple. It's got some strong Kool-Aid.
PaulS681
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7/21/2014 | 8:29:31 PM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
I dont get the appeal of iThings either. I think they are good products but they are expensive and I don't see how they are so much better than other devices and OS's. This should get users talking and asking for answers but it probably won't.

 
Dr.T
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7/22/2014 | 10:23:25 AM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
We tend to think that apple products are more secure comparing to others, because of closed HW and OS. If they create backdoors that would simply make it more unsecure than others in the market.
stotheco
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7/22/2014 | 2:01:56 PM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
Definitely makes it less secure. iOS used to be more secure because it wasn't as widely used as the others, I believe. Now it's gaining in market share and we can basically expect the discovery of backdoors or holes in the system. Give hackers enough motivation and they will find something, unfortunately.
stotheco
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stotheco,
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7/22/2014 | 2:00:30 PM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
I suppose the appeal was because of how they were sold before. Steve Jobs was a masterful salesman and had a knack for making you think that Apple's newest releases were completely new and something you must have, even though they technically sometimes weren't. 
gpickles
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7/21/2014 | 6:49:13 PM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
But cars, at least those built in the last 15, years DO carry surveillance technology. It's essentially like an airliner "black box" that records all sorts of information about your car, including: speed, acceleration/deceleration, throttle/brake application, steering wheel angle, and various other telemetry data for the last several minutes of travel (I forget how long). Law enforcement often uses this information when analyzing an accident or performing other forensics. And soon insurance companies will give you a discount for carrying a GPS transponder to monitor your speed and location (or, in other words, those who don't want to be monitored will pay more). People gladly accept these things for the sake of convenience and saving money. George Orwell is shaking his head.
Thomas Claburn
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Thomas Claburn,
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7/21/2014 | 8:46:22 PM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
Cars require a government-issued license to operate and there's some rationale for imposing a privacy cost if it means road safety can be improved and lives can be saved. Communication has become similarly regulated but there's less of a public safety rationale and more of a government burden to respect the constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech. As such, phones should not be compromised by default. 
Dr.T
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7/22/2014 | 10:19:02 AM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
Or as simple as people really do not want others knowing their personal conversations that can be used against them one way or another. I see a trend that people will be less sensitive on privacy issues than before. That may ease down the problem.
stotheco
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stotheco,
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7/22/2014 | 2:05:47 PM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
Any references or further insight as to why you see a trend where people will be less sensitive when it comes to privacy issues? I believe it is the latter, but I'm interested to hear why you think that.
Dr.T
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7/22/2014 | 10:16:04 AM
No device is secure
 

Obviously no device is secure. You would expect big companies would not be able to take risk of having backdoors and that being disclosed to public. In long run for this to work either public need to lower their privacy expectation or big businesses need to stand up and protect their consumers.  
the5thHorseman
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7/22/2014 | 2:55:13 PM
Faith, no more...
There is no one left to trust in America. No faith left in any American corporation. Your government has absolutely betrayed you. American government and corporations are one and the same. The corruption is so complete, it is irrepairable. This IOS revelation is simply one in a tidal wave of lies and deceit. Look at what is happening around the world... European, African, Asian, Middle-Eastern countries... all dumping American products. Microsoft [insert software title] anything is being abandoned. Cisco routers are being replaced. Dell computers and servers are no longer preferred, they are to be avoided at all cost. Google is being denied access to networks on a national level... of course the American media propaganda machine [all communication networks in America] spin this as paranoid countries trying to keep their citizens down by denying them access to American internet services. But the truth is something quite different. The world is slowly turning away from America and anything built here. The governments of France and Germany have dumped Windows in favor of Ubuntu, and are adding to their growing list of American products and services that will no longer be allowed. This trend is picking up speed, the more that is released about the NSA and the federal governments blatant disregard for ANYONES privacy whatsoever, and the more that is discovered about American corporations willful and silent compliance with these outrageous practices, the more nations will join these defectors. They have figured out that there are alternatives to Microsoft, Apple, Dell, HP, Cisco, etc.. and we are approaching a time when no one is going to buy ANYTHING made in America. The IOT is coming, and no one is going to want any of those "things" that are made in America. The insatiable greed of corporate America, and the absolute corruption of American government is about to make us the technological lepers of the world... the Internet of Things... closed to American products and services. They have made America the most disreputable place on the planet. How will that work out for jobs and a healthy economy? We are about to find out.
SachinEE
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7/29/2014 | 9:02:51 AM
Re: Why is acceptable to betray your customers?
User privacy is a very important issue. Customers are always looking to feel safe with the gadgets that they use. It is very hard to believe that the encrypted data can be accessed by anybody. That will highly encourage the hackers to be able to get access to anyone's phone and access their important and saved data. Apple has always guaranteed safety to its customers and that is why many people have subscribed into using the Apple phones. They should look into it so that people feel safe to invest with them.


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