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melgross
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melgross,
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8/4/2014 | 5:53:36 PM
Re: Gimmicky UI
I read something that makes a lot of sense. The writer states that the buyers of this phone will primarily be Amazon Prime users. They will be getting that year of free Prime use. That brings the price of the phone down by $100. For everyone else, it's not such a great thing, as its purpose is to funnel people into buying from Amazon, with little else of great use. But that also makes any profit debatable.
SaneIT
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SaneIT,
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8/1/2014 | 8:18:28 AM
Re: Gimmicky UI
I didn't catch the product launch so I didn't see the vision as presented by Amazon.  I don't see a lot of positive press about it either which tells me that Amazon isn't out in front of this pushing the marketing the way it will be necessary for the phone to gain traction. 
melgross
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melgross,
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7/31/2014 | 2:37:56 PM
Re: Gimmicky UI
He tried, in that overlong introduction to it. But it isn't all that great, according to every reviewer out there. He seems to have forgotten the negative response to 3D in general, and specifically to the illness reported from many people using them. I've read that while he thinks he's a product guy like Steve Jobs, he's not. That could be a problem.
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pcharles09,
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7/31/2014 | 9:30:32 AM
Re: Gimmicky UI
@SaneIT,

I've heard that many times too. I think the iOS ecosystem has generated the most revenue so developers spend most of their time there. I've also heard that the Android & WP marketplaces are full of tire-kickers so devs don't really anticipate seeing a return on their investments.
SaneIT
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SaneIT,
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7/30/2014 | 7:49:03 AM
Re: Gimmicky UI
@melgross,

If that is what Bezos wants then he needs to be out there telling people why the flashy UI is better.  The most I've seen is a corny demo of their remote help application.  That doesn't make me want to run out and buy one.
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SaneIT,
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7/30/2014 | 7:47:29 AM
Re: Gimmicky UI
@pcharles09,

I've been saying for years that eventually all of the mobile OSes will merge with their desktop counterparts.  Microsoft more or less laid this out as part of their game plan last week.  I suspect Google has the same roadmap with Android and ChromeOS and that Apple will bring iOS and OSX together as well.  This will help with the lack of apps on the mobile platforms but there still needs to be a push to be a desirable place to sell your apps.  I have people tell me all the time that they don't do Android apps because it's not worth the effort.  That confuses me a bit because it's not any tougher for me to get apps to the Play store than it is to get them to iTunes.  Those same people tell me they won't even look at Microsoft because it confuses them with Win8 and Win8phone.  Is it any harder to develop for the Windows platforms?  Probably not, it's just different and many developers don't want to bother with it.

 
pcharles09
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7/29/2014 | 10:50:23 PM
Re: Gimmicky UI
@SaneIT,

I agree 100%. I can't tell you how excited I was when WP finally got an Angry Birds app. Unfortunately, it was so late in the game that no one was playing it anymore. That's usally how it goes.

Hopefully Amazon learns from these type of experiences.
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melgross,
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7/29/2014 | 3:31:38 PM
Re: Gimmicky UI
It does seem as though a flashy UI and advertising as to how advanced the phone is, is what Bezos wants. It's hard to sell another phone is these days. And this doesn't offer much when compared to the majors, and that includes Win Phone.
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SaneIT,
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7/29/2014 | 7:11:20 AM
Re: Gimmicky UI
I agree that being compared to Windows Phone is a bad thing.  I've test driven a few different Windows phones over the past couple of years and have been underwhelmed each time.  It was not because of the UI though, it was the lack of mainstream apps that both Android and iOS have.  I hate to break it to them but it's not the OS that makes the device it's the experience around the device and useful apps are a large part of that experience.  Amazon needs to figure out what they want the user experience to be and sell that feverishly. 
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Charlie Babcock,
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7/28/2014 | 3:41:50 PM
We're in the Middle Ages of smart phones
"Apple, Google, and Microsoft are seasoned veterans and masters at what they do." This is a brave statement. I would say Apple, Google and Microsoft are the wizened veterans, who sometimes seem to know what they're doing. Microsoft is huffing and puffing, trying to make a Windows phone fly. Google can't seem to enforce sufficient discipline over the Android suppliers to create a unified community. Apple seems to have its act together, as long as no powerful open source alternative appears. We're in the feudal, Middle Ages of smart phones, with, hopefullty, the Enlightenment still to occur.
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