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ANON1237925156805,
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8/21/2012 | 8:20:33 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
This isn't even an article about Apple. I guess for you everything is an article about Apple? I can use a stylus already on my Apple. It's not as integrated as Samsung's but what's new about something that Palm had 10 years ago and the Newton years before that? Apple can't take anyone for granted. That's true. But neither can Google and for sure neither can Windows/Nokia, both of which have lost mindshare and have yet to demonstrate that they'll regain it.

If we're lucky we'll have a three-way race and the competition will make everyone better, which will benefit all of us. If we're unlucky then the smartphone market will be as dysfunctional as Washington DC. Anyone for that?
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8/21/2012 | 2:12:00 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
Consumerization of IT will revive Nokia's handset business and put them back on top with commerical business users. Google bought MM to extend it's control over the handset, but doesn't have the commercial applications moxy (desire?) to transform consumers' search behavior into a standalone application business. The search bar isn't a destination and on its own doesn't justify buying a device. As for Apple, the experience is relevant and there will always be a hardcore group looking for the "cool" factor, but these devices must be justified on the merits of their use cases and integrated and managed by somebody other than the Geek Squad.
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8/16/2012 | 4:37:41 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
So the stylus is going to save Nokia? To be able to run office is the savior of the smartphone? You are a funny guy. Windows already tried that with Windows mobile.
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8/16/2012 | 4:28:15 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
If I'm not mistaken, this article is about Nokia and Samsung. Yet and still, every post alludes to something AAPL.

AAPL appears to be the moth in those tawdry garments.
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8/16/2012 | 3:46:48 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
Your points are valid, but MS can sell to any hardware vendor they want. No way is the Nokia hardware to be released going to beat the Galaxy S III, it may match it but that is not good enough. I am talking about raw hardware here, not Andriod vs WP. If WP starts to gain traction in the enterprise space, what is to stop Samsung from putting it on the Galaxy S III?
Cool apps are the only hope for nokia.
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8/16/2012 | 3:46:09 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
Yes, the new Lumina will have a larger display and include stylus use, or at least one of the model will.

The now quaint iPad sitting on a stand at some boutique store where you finger paint your name when using a credit card to pay makes for nice discussion but notice how large POS systems all use a stylus? Ask why you don't use your finger to sign for CC purchases in high volume operations? It simply doesn't work unless you name is "Max". That TV commercial by Apple showing someone signing their name to make a purchase is really funny. What if "Max" had a last name like Rothenburg or Wilkerson or any name with more than 3 letters?

But back to Nokia and Samsung. Nokia makes great hardware. Microsoft makes economy sustaining software systems. Couple the two and even with some initial experimentation (yeah, the first iPhone was perfect right?) sooner or later everything works out.

The initial releases of Windows Phones by Nokia were hammered. So what? Ever build something and then go back and improve upon it? Well, that happens in business too.

If Nokia creates a phone that truly compliments Windows 8 and makes for a seamless integrated solution, Samsung will have a hard time because it can only pray that Google has something more up its sleeve with Chrome and so far there isn't anything. Google Docs still can't compete with Office and with Office 365 and the huge push and adoption of that solution in the business space, market share will flow to Nokia like a water fall, forget the pundits in the media, they all report to get pageviews and at some point all will point to something they said predicting success.
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8/16/2012 | 3:37:16 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
The joke is on Nokia. Samsung can build Windows phones if they want. Nokia has chosen not to build Android phones, putting themselves at a huge disadvantage. Microsoft will sell to any hardware vendor who is willing to pay them.
If Nokia is going to give up writing O/S software for their phones they better come up with some slick applications that differentiate their phones. That is what everyone is waiting to see.
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8/16/2012 | 3:35:20 PM
re: Nokia Taunts Samsung Ahead Of Windows Phone Launch
The battle is no longer company 1,2 and 3 vs Apple is it Google and Android vs Microsoft and Windows 8 and Phone. Apple is relegated to end user status. Sure it occupies a huge share of the market right now but look who makes up that market; end users who nowadays don't have the same loyalty that Apple built its success upon. More and more, as a new generation hits the market, switching to alternative products is the norm, Apple can't count on its customers to just buy because it is Apple. The whole Apple v Samsung affair has only hurt Apple, except for die hards which really don't count for much anymore.

Microsoft has a complete cradle to growth support system. So we have this headline about Microsoft suspending app commercialization for a while . So what? Apple does it all the time. Next?

All the pundits counted Nokia out. They had to because it gets page hits. Was any of that based upon anything but speculation? Hardly.

When you take a vacation do you want someone blaming you because you used some of the benefits and accommodations? That is the logic of Apple support whereas Microsoft actually does something about it. Talk to enterprise business customers and they'll tell you that when there is a problem, the problem gets fixed without blaming you. That one little detail is something Apple never figured out. If you walk into a business IT department and blame them for your products failure to do something you are finished. That is why Apple can't get past the door and must desperately shoot for small installations and end of use scenarios.

So some CEO uses an iPad or iPhone. That gets press for days. What you don't read about are the complaints by their IT support staff who now have to try to make that obvious consumption device work for anything more than web browsing and game playing.


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