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Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
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EBo
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EBo,
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10/2/2012 | 7:02:51 PM
re: Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
seems pretty obvious that the smartphone is killing MS (and eventually Windows)
cxf
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cxf,
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9/28/2012 | 9:26:15 PM
re: Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
First java was going to kill Windows, then the browser was going to kill Windows, then iOs was going to kill Windows. Windows is a cockroach, it's not going to be killed. Windows will survive a nuclear holocaust.
MarkSitkowski
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MarkSitkowski,
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9/27/2012 | 11:05:14 PM
re: Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
At last! A note of sanity among the Billyware hype which has, woefully, lasted for too many years. The gui-pretending-to-be-an-operating-system has well and truly had its day and, amid almost daily horror stories of new exploits, malware, hacks (and, of course, the bugs which are de rigeur for Billyware releases) it's time to let this particular overbloated whale die on the beach.
Linux isn't hard to support or use, provided people can learn to adapt to a different colour on the desktop background. Apart from that Ubuntu and Linux Mint look so much like Windows that it's frightening.
Seriously, though, I think the 'cyberwarfare' we hear so much about will be a deciding factor in the policy-making process of many companies. If you have real data to protect, you don't really care about the multimedia capabilities of your computer and, on the bright side, installing the humble Linux over Windows on any over-spec'd Intel box will give a performance boost like you wouldn't believe...
Me? I run Solaris :)
GAProgrammer
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GAProgrammer,
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9/27/2012 | 7:21:07 PM
re: Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
wow, your contract is horrible. As a consumer, I can't even get close to the price of the business computers - the price cuts for business are that good. Either a) you are bashing Dell or b) you need to really look at your contracts.

It saddens me that all this finance jargon and number crunching ended up as yet another "Linux should replace Windows" article. Once again, just like in the real world, a finance guy crunches numbers without considering the real world parameters and side effects.
moarsauce123
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9/25/2012 | 7:49:06 AM
re: Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
The prices given are street prices for consumers. Sadly, business plans of the major vendors like Dell easily double the prices. I got myself a decent desktop system for home for a bit over 600$ with a good chunk going for a W7 license. At work I get a Dell that costs twice as much and has half the performance if that.
As always, nobody gets fired for buying Dell or Microsoft. I'm not so sure about that when proposing to ditch MS Office for OpenOffice and replace any OS with Linux where only browser based apps are needed, even if it costs tremendously less. That may change if the OOo folks manage to package OpenOffice with a suitable Outlook / Exchange replacement.
davesf
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9/24/2012 | 7:11:16 PM
re: Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
Sadly, Linux is not really an operating system, in that binary shipped software is not compatible across different systems that use the Linux kernel. This means it's not an alternative to Windows even if we wanted it to be. Linux is an embedded system, mostly used to build server-appliances that serve webpages, but also used to create a fractured list of desktop operating systems such as "Ubuntu 11", "Ubuntu 12", "ChromeOS" and "Android"...

These all use Linux, but binaries compiled for them are not compatible with each-other. This unfortunately makes any of them a very fractured and difficult market to support 3rd party applications within.

Further, the dream of abandoning software for the browser is a dream that only works in very very limited situations. Many types of client software are still out of the reach of the limits of web-based Javascript development. The post-windows solution has already arrived in the form of "consumerized operating systems" such as iOS and Android. The distinction being, applications in these systems are sandboxed from each other and controlled in such a way that a naive user clicking on any buttons/linux/etc can't generally break the operating system -- because applications do not have the permission to do anything that would break the operating system. This is a big reason we're more satisfied with mobile operating systems than desktops.

Application sandboxing makes these systems dramtically less vulnerable to viruses, malware, and abusive software. "Regular consumers" can uninstall a piece of software from a mobile device and be assured it's totally gone, something that is not true on legacy desktops like Windows and MacOS. This is where we need to be headed, and the fact that Windows8 focused on desktop/touch UI integration instead of sandboxing is a big mis-step.

Even Mountain Lion made a baby step towards "consumerization"; by introducing a preference defaulting application installs to restricted signed apps. This isn't going far enough, but it's going futher than windows8. The next truly successful x86 desktop operating system will embrace consumerization and sandboxing. Will it be Android-x86? iOS-for-desktops? or WIndowws-14? Who knows, but it will happen.
ggiese87101
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9/24/2012 | 3:38:54 PM
re: Why Are We Still Buying Desktop OSes, Anyway?
Linux is still a viable option. Just because the tech staff doesn't have the support skillset for it right now, how long would it take to gain it? What is the 3-year or 5-year TCO vs. needed features and qualities (equation for value)? For a reasonably large company, it's not that difficult to run a pilot one year and begin rolling out the next. One to two years is plenty to learn to support a new OS. And if you pay for extra training, your TCO improvement over time will probably still look appealing. Windows will still have to be around for some folks, because of certain apps, so identifying the users and their needs is the critical first step. Some of them can either use a tablet or inexpensive Linux desktop or laptop and rely on web apps, possibly including Google Apps or Office 365, for the normal documents, spreadsheets, and presentations.

BTW, one trend I've seen is employees buying Macs then ALSO buying Windows and running it in a VM on the Mac (they do this for "corporately supported" Windows apps or specific apps that are only available for Windows). So not only does the company pay extra for the Mac premium, but they pay again for Windows!

And then we can start talking about BYOD, right? Who cares what PC the employee brings to work! It's kind of like day laborers or home construction workers or handymen who have to bring their own tools to the job. You want this job? You better bring your computer!


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