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Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
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Skendall
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Skendall,
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10/7/2012 | 6:18:33 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
Been on Windows 8 since the MSDN release, faster than 7 and really liking the tiles. Windows 8 systems work excellent with Direct Access/connect and Server 2012 making it an excellent way for workers to always be on the corporate LAN regardless of the physical location. This makes IT MUCH easier and intranet only programs to function 24/7. When surface releases I can see corporate laptop purchases disappearing in favor of tablets that are always on the corporate LAN with access to all corporate assets. We have already adapted to Windows phones and have at least 80% less support calls because there is simply no integration needed. The phones just work in a corporate environment without requiring APPS other than what is on the phone. If you havent looked at the connection between Server 2012 and 8, please have your IT Department check it out.
carolinaman
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carolinaman,
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10/7/2012 | 5:39:27 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
I love 8 its twice as fast loading, faster surfing, and a lot more security wise. I have the start menu loaded from stardock.com, so its like 7 but different.
augman
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augman,
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10/7/2012 | 4:45:42 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
Has anyone forgotten Windows Vista?
Darr247
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Darr247,
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10/7/2012 | 12:28:08 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
kevinski said,
"... selling it as something that can do the same things as Windows when it really doesn't have much in the way of benefits to provide."

The only thing I've found lacking in the linux versus windows competition is a 3D CAD program. Since Autodesk tied their future to microsoft by integrating its foundation class files, there simply is no porting that to linux; WINE is not the answer... if the **only** way to replace something is by running it in WINE, then you might as well run windows.

Everything else I've needed, I have found a suitable replacement for in linux.
Darr247
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Darr247,
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10/7/2012 | 12:19:06 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
You would help your argument if you recommended a business-oriented distro with SELinux built in and enabled by default, like CentOS or RedHat, rather than Ubuntu.
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Suiris,
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10/7/2012 | 11:36:07 AM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
Here's why I am in no rush to upgrade to Windows 8...because I already did...and already went back to Windows 7. Having an MSDN subscription I have access to Windows 8 prior to retail release. I recently purchased my computer hardware about 1 month ago with the intentions of going Windows 8 and for some other areas I'm going into such as HQ photography. Win 8 certified MB, 8x core CPU, 16GB ram, SSD drives, CrossfireX, 24" LED monitor, etc... Now since I just put this all together and re-installed there isn't any heavy lifting to be done on my system. Some things are installed but not a lot. MS Office, browsers, plugins, a few games, chat programs, etc. I spent 20 minutes imaging my system drive before upgrading to Win8...I spend the next 90 minutes letting Windows 8 upgrade my system. Upon install the overs-can on my video card was set to 15%; No big deal, driver setting, right? The driver no longer had the same options as before even though it was a direct driver, not the MS one. No where to change it back to 0%. For those who don't know, the over-scan turned on when not needed causes a black border around of the edge of the screen. OK, I'll just re-install the driver... a 100 MB+ download and in a few minutes I'm ready... ....run driver software... 1st file "uncompressing 100%" and stalls. 10 minutes later and it hasn't moved. Have to force close the installer. Ugh. This driver says it's for Win 8 (and 7)... So, maybe a reboot will do it... "Windows is restarting..." 15 minutes later "Windows is restarting..." Reset button, recover CD, re-image back to Windows 7. Bye-bye Windows 8. Yes, I'm aware this was an upgrade but I'm also aware that my hardware was certified for windows 8 and I had relatively little installed to cause a problem with upgrade. Win 8 even forced me to uninstall some Intel network card software that came with my MB to make sure things didn't go bad, which I did.

It was unacceptable to have a clean upgrade just go out to lunch in the first 30 minutes on trivial things like software install and reboot.

Under windows 7 I go from "Loading Windows" to desktop in 10 seconds or less and that includes me entering my password. I'm told Windows 8 is faster... I say, maybe it is if it works... but even if it's 8 seconds... Am I to complain about 2 seconds?

I'm contemplated a clean install but geesh, it's the principle here. I shouldn't HAVE to fresh install just to get it to work.

That's my 2 cents.
kevinski
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kevinski,
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10/6/2012 | 8:53:02 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
You're living in a dream world. I won't deny that Linux is well-suited to business use, but Linux's problem will always be that the people who are trying to get people to adopt it are selling it as something that can do the same things as Windows when it really doesn't have much in the way of benefits to provide.

Linux needs to do its own thing to attract people. If there's no real incentive to switch from a productivity standpoint, then people aren't going to care. Furthermore, Linux still isn't a complete replacement for Windows, because there's always *something* that'll require some sort of functionality that isn't available on Linux. Also, while there's a wide variety of programs available for Linux that can perform most of the tasks that you can perform on Windows, the open-source community's insistence on giving those programs ridiculous names prevents them from being as discoverable as they need to be.
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10/6/2012 | 7:47:08 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
There is no discussion as that someone can figure out the new UI, but the new UI does not provide any significant improvements when not using a touch enabled device. On a standard desktop with non-touch display it is even more annoying. Aside from the no longer called Metro UI there is nothing in W8 that cannot be done with W7. So why spend money and effort on switching? W8 on a tablet, yes, on a desktop, no.
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10/6/2012 | 4:19:12 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
there's a reason the "Linux Madness" doesn't stop: it is going to replace MSFT for serious/business computing.

who cares about gaming ? that is where MSFT seems to be heading, particularly w/ this Win8 thing -- which makes Windows into a tablet O/S

i was right about OS/2 back in the day when all the pundits were yelling that would be the way into the future. it wasn't. now we come to another fork in the road ... with the wreckage of hacked systems littering the landscape

it's gonna be Game Over for insecure o/s
melgross
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10/6/2012 | 4:13:35 PM
re: Windows 8: Why I Won't Upgrade
Will you guys stop with the Linux madness already? That train has left the station, and isn't coming back. And the only reason why there aren't a lot of current games for Linux is because so few people use Linux. Therefor, those companies don't want to lose money porting them overGÇödespite the ever increasingly desperate cries of Linux users for more games.

It isn't that desktop Linux is a serious platform. It's just that no one takes it seriously.
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