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Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
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droden212
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10/12/2012 | 4:32:56 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
Microsoft has been trying since the days of Windows CE to gain a significant foothold in the mobile space. Based on their history, we would be wise to be skeptical about Windows 8 and the forthcoming tablets that will be running it. I realize that things are a little different this time. Windows 8 is the result of a full court press by Microsoft to finally establish itself as a player in mobility. I believe it will turn out be too little, and much too late.

The reason BYOD has become such an important discussion is because users are finally realizing that apps matter and OS's do not. To go even further, I think users are beginning to realize that apps that allow them to work with their data are what's important, regardless of who makes the app. In my own case, my company-issued notebook runs Microsoft Office, but my iPad, Android smartphone and Kindle Fire all run Quickoffice, and I can exchange documents in both directions. Why would I wait for Microsoft's tablet or a someday, maybe version of Microsoft Office on the iPad. As the article suggests, it might be nice, but it's not compelling.

Not only is the genie out of the bottle on this, but I think we are beginning to discover that the bottle, which once served such an important purpose, is now not only unnecessary, but also far too limiting. Policies and procedures that corporations once applied to (and more importantly, through) a standardized OS will now be applied to data and pathways (network traffic). How we get there will be a much more individual choice.

IOS is successful, in part, because Apple did not try to fit the MAC onto a tablet. It started with a clean slate and wrote the OS to fit the medium. Microsoft, in trying to create a one-size-fits-all OS, will once again deliver a product in the mobility space that is a jack of all trades, but master of none. Did you ever used Pocket Word or Pocket IE? The gap between expectations and reality was enormous. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I believe Microsoft is currently on the fast train to Blackberry-ville. The once mighty will soon find itself without a track.
GAProgrammer
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GAProgrammer,
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10/12/2012 | 5:21:55 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
Mac users do it all the time and rave about it.
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10/12/2012 | 5:37:28 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
Only way I am buying a Win 8 tablet is when they have sufficient number of apps, doesn't have to reboot every day and a considerable amount of battery life. Else I am sticking with my current low cost andriod tablet.
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10/12/2012 | 5:39:02 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
Personally, if any single company attempts to lock me into their platform, whether the reason is uniformity, security, ease of use, or whatever the argument, my first thought is to look in another direction.

If, however, that company does their very best to interoperate with as many of the existing systems, applications, and interfaces as possible, while reducing as many dependencies as possible, I may at least consider that approach. If it requires me to buy two or three components, whether hardware or software, I am not inclined to do it unless I already have a need, because of age or capability, in the hardware and software that I already own.

I'm not buying the argument at all.
hohum
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10/13/2012 | 9:14:59 AM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
Then dont have the discussion? If you are that type of person just
go buy the new iMS device the first day of release. It that simple
if something is not as good as you think afterwards ( say to yourself its better than imaps).

You Can be a mindless sheep and still have a PC.
LOL
Unfortunately, the measure we use for these different paradigms in tech is
vastly different. Apple is expected not to work because of their dogmatic/biased
approach.

I think if people could use the same yardstick and detached critique with apple
the outcome would be harsh.
Until you place both on a level playing field it really is a silly comparison or implied
association.

moarsauce123
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10/13/2012 | 12:05:34 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
While iOS and OS X might look alike they are far from the same. Try to run an iPhone app on your MacBook or vice versa and see how well that works. And with W8 there is still no unity, because W8 is not W8RT is not WP8.
Yes, it is just suggestive marketing blahblah by making things look the same and call them by only slightly diffrerent names. Under the hood it is still a huge difference, but companies don't care after the gullibles and fanbois bought the stuff.
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10/13/2012 | 3:18:11 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
Having used MS-DOS 3, Windows 3.0, 3.11, 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista & Win7...Microsoft has not gotten it right yet, why not improve on Existing Windows 7, rather than yet another OS which that too will have issues. Not having used MAC-Apple since IIc+ & IIgs, I cannot compare MS OS to Apple OS and wonder if Apple OS experiences as many issues as MS.
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10/13/2012 | 6:46:52 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
Kevin, et al, mark it down. Apple will move to a single kernel. Now, this doesn't mean that they'll ditch the Mac desktop in favor of the iPhone / iPad home screen. But they will move to a single kernel and continue to blur the lines between the Mac desktop and the iPhone / iPad home screen. It's what makes sense and MS should be applauded for setting this trend. In time, we'll find out if the general public minds having to click one icon to drop into desktop mode. But my guess is that on tablets, people simply won't use the desktop all that often, given that most W8 hybrids will be primarily media consumption devices just like iPads.
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10/14/2012 | 12:01:34 AM
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"IOS is successful, in part, because Apple did not try to fit the MAC onto a tablet. It started with a clean slate and wrote the OS to fit the medium."

No entirely true. IOS is actually an OSX derivative.
moarsauce123
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10/14/2012 | 12:37:33 PM
re: Windows 8: Do I Really Need A Single OS?
I work on both systems and the issues on OS X are just different. While there are some shortcuts I find myself searching constantly for stuff, because I have no idea where it is located and once I found it the location is so illogical to me that the next time around I forgot and have to search again. What bugs me most about OS X is the difficulty of some of the application installations. You need to mount an image, extract these files, then open a folder that contains the launcher (which is at times difficult to find between all the other stuff), and then proceed to install. Once done close the folder and unmount the image. All I want is to click a button called "Install this app" and instantly proceed using it.
In the end OS X has the same shortcomings as a Linux distro or Windows or an Android device. They all claim to know what the user wants when in fact they are not even close. Ease of user and good UX are still missing from modern OS. And then there are the hardware restrictions, especially for Apple. OS X runs on x86, so why not let me take the OS and install it on the hardware that I have. Why do I need to buy an Apple device that has the same processor, memory, and graphics card as my Windows PC? In fact, Windows works fine on Apple hardware, although it requires some help from third party tools.
And lastly way too many applications are tied to one single OS platform. Unless it is a Java app there is no way to run the same binaries on OS X, Linux, and Windows. Let's get to that point first and then have unrestricted access to all OS (meaning I can install where I want, I do not mean giving it away for free) so that businesses and consumers can pick and choose which one they like best. The Apples and Microsofts and Linux communities need to get rid of all that red tape that's wrapped around them.
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