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Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
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alanspicertelecom
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10/24/2012 | 10:04:44 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
Something becomes a standard either by standards bodies or by cramming it down peoples throats.

00:46:21 You survive because you make them need what you have.

00:46:26 And then they have nowhere else to go.

(You have what they need and you are the only one that can provide it.)

I would be just fine with the tappy appy thing being on portable touch devices, and I have an iPhone and don't have a problem with that. I have a need to know computing devices and operating systems for my work. So I have to know Windows versions as they come out. But I don't have to like the convergence of Desktop OS and Mobile OS.

Just because anyone can learn to jump through hoops to do something - doesn't mean that they have to. (Unless the rules above apply) which might be what this is really about. But really the hype about Windows 8 being a problem might be more of a hype of the media and trade rags.
GChiasson
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10/24/2012 | 7:45:44 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
Shifting from the Start button to the Windows key is perfectly consistent with what most users have come to expect from their favorite devices whether tablet or phone. I want the main menu I hit the menu key. If someone puts out a keyboard with that key in the middle under the spacebar and says here is Windows 8 use it, I'd bet they'd hit the key and suddenly Windows 8 would be easy.
moonwatcher
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10/24/2012 | 6:43:58 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
Big yawn! It is just a freaking O/S after all. A way to find and launch programs, and a way to save your data where you can access it later. Beyond that it is all a bunch of needless window (pun intended) dressing trying to be "cool". I'm not sure if this experiment (and that is what it is) in trying to combine mobile and desktop O/S's will be a success. But for Microsoft's sake, it had better be. In the meantime, I won't be upgrading my aging Windows XP box to Win 8, even for $40. Why? Because the apps I need to run (Solidworks) will not run on a 32-bit version of Win 8 (big rats!), so for another year, I'll still be using Win XP. Believe me, I wanted to jump to Win 8 for the good price, but as a consumer I have to go with the path of least resistance and what makes economic sense. I won't be upgrading to Win 8 until I buy a new 64-bit processor PC or lap top that it comes pre-loaded on. I'll load Ubuntu on my old XP box in late 2014 and use it for the Internet. And one last thing: All these tiles are cool and all, but they are more or less just big fat icons. With so many people already tied in to Apple's iOS via iPODs, iPhones, and iPADs, will consumers that aren't planning on buying a Surface tablet embrace using Win 8 at home, or see the "Modern UI" as just something to get past in order to do their work? BTW, once it has been out for a while, will it still make sense to call it the "Modern UI"? Maybe they should have just stuck with Metro for the name...
RobMark
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10/24/2012 | 6:31:54 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
My thinking is MS's long term goal is to evolve the Modern UI to the point that it can phase out the Desktop. This would include the excess baggage the OS has of all the legacy interfaces that bloat the OS.
RobMark
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10/24/2012 | 6:29:23 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
Did you know that XP was full of issues and people were going to have to be trained on how to use it instead. If you really cannot figure out a way to include a one or two page hand out on Win8 basics to get them going . . . BTW there are plenty of none UI changes that are specifically for businesses included in Win8.
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10/24/2012 | 6:21:04 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
I agree with you Steve. However, MS isn't launching W8 in order to take the corporate world by storm. They're trying to create an OS that will meet the desktop user's changing needs over the next 10 years.
SHL-FL
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10/24/2012 | 5:44:50 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
You say in the article that, "More choices are good, aren't they?" So why not a choice to keep the Start Menu?
ianlee74
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10/24/2012 | 5:38:36 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
I'm sorry but it's hard to take this review seriously considering the author is still using Windows XP and is still calling the Win8 UI "Metro"... But, I agree completely that anyone capable of finding a Start button is also capable of figuring out Win8 within a couple hours of use.
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10/24/2012 | 5:15:32 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
Another good title for this article would be "can you learn to use an ATM or put gas in your car?"or "Are you Forest Gump?" Icons are easily added to the enigmatic and algebraically hard Metro UI (dripping sarcasm).. and because Windows 8 is a mullet in reverse - Party in the front and business in the back - the desktop replete with Windows 7 goodness, taskbar and all is but a key stroke away. As for enterprises they will be upgrading in WAVES.... from XP to Win7. Windows 8 will not be player in the Enterprise... But Windows 9 will.
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10/24/2012 | 5:01:52 PM
re: Windows 8: You Can Handle The Learning Curve
But Paul, why would I want to change? Yes, anyone could learn to use Win8, just as anyone could learn to use the utterly stupid Tool Ribbon in Office, but why would I want to subject myself and my users to the irritation and reduced productivity just so Microsoft can help force us toward newer products that we'll have to buy to 'keep up?' Tell me with a straight face that M$ actually *needed* to get rid of the Start button, or had a technical reason why I can't get Win8 to boot to the desktop; go ahead, I dare you. You know as well as I do that those changes were made to force users to get used to the new UI rather than make them more productive.

I'm sure Win8 is a perfectly serviceable OS, particularly since its pretty much Win7 with clown makeup, but it has negative value for me. I'm not interested.
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