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Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
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sewing041
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11/27/2012 | 6:55:09 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
Windows 8 is all about competing with Apple IOS running on the iPhone and iPad. If Microsoft can successfully market a single product (well a single GUI) that can be used on phones, tablets, laptops and desktops by large enterprises then they may be able to recapture the people that are running to Apple due to the ease of use of IOS and the coolness of iDevices.
Tom P
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11/27/2012 | 6:51:09 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
To me, the fix is quite simple and the users have been telling them over and over -- but they refuse to listen. (1) Allow the user decide the default environment that the user boots up to and (2) bring back the start menu for those who want it. Do those and I'm buying it today.

To be sure, having the Metro interface available brings a lot of value connecting the desktop to the device world. But making it the default was an incredibly poor decision that ignores seventeen years of people's lives and habits. And the very thought of having hundreds of icons on a never-ending scrollable desktop instead of my nicely organized start menu makes me ill.
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11/27/2012 | 6:49:25 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
I've always said that Redmond doesn't understand networking. We've had several people where I work bring their new Windows 8 laptops to work - none of them have lasted a week. They all went back to Windows 7, because they couldn't get their machines to consistently work on the network. Management has given up trying to help them, because nothing seems to work.

And I agree about the Tool Ribbon - what a waste of space. It should be used to strangle whoever thought of making it part of Office.
FritzNelson
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11/27/2012 | 6:40:26 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
I just think that there isn't a pressing need for something new. When users buy new laptops, they'll have to consider whether it's good enough, or even necessary. I think Microsoft is in this for the longer play here and they'll muddle through slow sales, and address complaints and fix problems and . . . it's not going away. And like others here, I agree, it's way too soon to judge this as a failure.
mrosstrevor100
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11/27/2012 | 6:37:35 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
I think a bigger issue is that to really "benefit" from Windows 8, you need a multi-touch screen. I work at a global company with over 130,000 employees, so we have 130,000+ desktop and laptop PCs. As our upgrade cycle is approximately 5 years, we won't be getting multi-touch screens for a while, so upgrading to Win8 is a long way off. On a global basis, we've only just upgraded to Win XP from Win2k. Personally I would love to create new applications for our users with multi-touch functionality, but when all is said and done, they don't need it in any of their current applications.
UberGoober
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11/27/2012 | 6:32:44 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
The infernal Tool Ribbon is *still* with us, and Vista lasted for its full product cycle. I'm afraid Microsoft's arrogance and hubris won't allow mere customer dissatisfaction to get in the way of their marketing department's plan for squeezing more upgrades out of the masses by obsoleting their older products via gratuitous UI changes.
moonwatcher
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11/27/2012 | 6:14:29 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
I simply don't like it. I don't see how it is any better than Windows 7 for desktop use. I don't want my desktop to look or act like a freaking phone or tablet. I don't want to be reaching to swipe my screen (and get fingerprints and streaks on it all the time, and since I do CAD work, I want it clean and clear at all times). Windows 7 does everything anyone needs. Why change it just for changes sake? Besides, when will Microsoft figure out that users want the operating system to manage files, run programs, and get the heck out of the way, and not be in our faces all the time? It seems like they paid a bunch of game programmers to try making using Windows "cool", instead of making it more useful. Well, I can do without the "cool".
Leo Regulus
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11/27/2012 | 6:13:20 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
Very close to my feelings. Unfortunately, we tolerate (who? Us? Tolerant?) Microsoft's basic 'Detroit Model' of development and marketing.

Yes, we do have options.
RobMark
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11/27/2012 | 6:08:19 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
So your Linux distribution doesn't support a secure boot and you think that is a good thing? Maybe you should be pressuring your Linux distro to support it so that you can use the faster/newer UEFI boot with improved security . . .
RobMark
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11/27/2012 | 6:05:52 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
You are compairing an established store location with a base of established customers with a new store with mainly new products that are competing with each other and you wonder why one has more people? I think MS is doing very good for a start at competing!
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