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Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
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stoneyh
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11/28/2012 | 7:26:43 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
Enjoyed your comment immensely Faye and while we agree on some points - you and I have some fundamental disagreements.

We both agree in thinking enterprise admins don't roll out the flavor or the month operating system or applications software to hundreds or thousands of users. I know plenty of places that are upgrading as I write this.... to Windows "7" (I wished there was a capital or uppercase 7. it would have been much more emphatic). Even if Windows 8 were being heralded as the best operating system known to mankind and Tim Cooke was cutting his own throat, Windows 8 would never see the light of day in most enterprise environments... its just not done that way. XP (excellent Microsoft product) is being retired because support is ending in 2014. Window 7 (even more excellent MS product) is time-tested, conventional and will be supported till 2020. Its the next place to go for IT grownups making career decisions. .. PERIOD.

Other than that I think your comment was complete non-sense..
1. the "industry press" does not constitute a reliable source of expertise or useful source material for making decisions. Why would Ballmer or Sinofsky or anyone else care what a bunch of writers have to say? They write the news... they don't drive the industry.
2. I see trolls on comment sections of all kinds and with a wide variety of affiliations and loyalties (BTW being devoted to a brand or corporation of any kind is pathetic) .. The common thread seems to be that the ones with the most venom on ANY side of the argument seem to be the least informed and the least qualified to render an opinion.
3. Microsoft does not force anyone to buy their software.. the pioneer in that realm would be Apple, which is a great company that I love but lets call it what it is.
4. Microsoft sold 40 Million copies of Windows 8 in the first month of release.. that is roughly twice what Windows 7 sold in its first month...
5. In September Apple announced that it took nearly two months to sell just 7 million copies of Mountain Lion... And nobody said a word.

So for those who like to use the ridiculous by the hour sales figures.. Microsoft sold roughly 55,500 copies of their OS upgrade an hour and Apple sold under 5,000 an hour.

AHH HAHAHAHAH!

-stoney
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elleno,
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11/28/2012 | 7:01:24 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
Windows 8 is Microsoft's new Coke moment.

"What damn fool went and changed the interface of our most successful product".
RobertEstes
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11/28/2012 | 6:57:24 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
40 million so far. Seems like a hit. Remember, the Windows market takes time to churn because of the critical nature of how important the Windows ecosystem is. You "analysts" want to kill. I love what I've seen so far.
crushkittykitty
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11/28/2012 | 6:22:15 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
my Ubuntu boots just fine under UEFI and as for more security um windows 8 was hacked the day after it it went public, UEFI isnt any faster either if windows 8 is shut completely down aka kill the power and watch how long it takes to boot up. The off is what use to be sleep mode. Last part if you havenG«÷t tried linux maybe you should. here is a good place to start https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Ever wonder why people like Linux? 4 years I have yet to get a virus bot or any other security issue, (that is with out anti virus)
ANON1236119637772
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ANON1236119637772,
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11/28/2012 | 4:28:36 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
Reminds me of Windows ME (Millenium Edition).
PMcDougall
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11/28/2012 | 3:26:14 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
what percentage of that 40 million is installed on PCs that are sitting on store shelves or in warehouses? Microsoft won't say
habraham559
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11/28/2012 | 3:05:35 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
If I had a dollar for every copy of Win8 sold in the first month I would retire, buy myself an island home, and read how Information Week thinks 40M copies in four weeks is considered a dismal failure while wriggling my toes in the sand and sipping pi+¶a coladas.
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11/28/2012 | 2:12:35 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
UEFI whatever blah blah blah. I'll tell you about a big disappointment that happened in my area. Microsoft store was opening in the area, and they sent a "Business" representative up to meet with our shop, as I can imagine they did with others. We were all excited about Microsoft, the Surface, Windows 8, the Microsoft store, the phone etc...

So this guy comes up, we are chatting with him, asking all kinds of questions. He hypes up everything, which is fine, we were hyped up too. We asked some questions about release dates, upgrading options, features, Hyper-V, licensing, lots of questions. He answered some of them, most of them he side stepped or gave ambiguous answers. After a while it became apparent he was what I will call a "hype generator" and really didn't know the products like I expected. He left off the visit with "email me any questions you have". Which we did, and we received similar ambiguous responses or no response at all.

One question we asked was in relation to a website that was selling Windows licenses fairly cheap. The company was listed as a Microsoft Certified Gold partner on Microsofts own website. I asked our Microsoft guy if it was legitimate, and told him they were even listed on Microsofts website as a certified gold partner. He said he'd look into it. I sent a follow up email, nothing in response. So he shows up a few weeks later at our shop with Surface coupons that would guarantee one in stock for us if we wanted one. I took the opportunity and asked him about the licensing I had emailed him about. His response was something to the effect of "oh yeah corporate got back to me and said they do so much volume and they have a special deal...". Great right? Well 2 or 3 weeks later the software site is down and it is reported that they were nailed for illegally selling software. So our Microsoft guy probably didn't even know and gave me another one of his BS answers just to satisfy the question.

I've visited the store with similar results. Attended an event. Talked with other people there. Thier 3rd party tech guy is less than desireable. Most of the employees fit the sales type "hype generator" profile and don't really seem to know the products.

After all of this, I'm like "Meh". I'm just not excited about it any more. I can't in good conscience send people to the store. They are likely to get fed a lot of fluff and who knows what will result from that. Anything bad that does will reflect on me because I referred them.

In any case, I still have hope for the x86 Surface that is coming out in a few months. I can see how it would integrate into my daily life and make things more convenient. I hope I am not disappointed.
Greg MacSweeney
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11/28/2012 | 1:33:32 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
I think it's too early to tell. Yes, 3 weeks is a long time in the tech world, but this is an OS, not a phone or tablet. When most consumers go to buy a new laptop, they are looking 1st at chip speed, memory, display and other features. Oh, it has the new Windows OS too? Ok...but it's not a primary driver for the buying decision. (I know many on this site would have already read all of the reviews about Windows 8, but most consumers don't...they read reviews about the device, not the OS).

However, just to hedge here a little: if the reviews of a new OS are really bad...so bad that everywhere you hear how bad/horrible the OS is, then, yes, that will also impact device sales, which will slow adoption of that particular OS.

But, i think waiting until after the holidays will give a more realistic view of the longer term prospects for the new Windows.
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11/28/2012 | 12:16:49 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
"do i look like i care" ?
I switched to Linux/Ubuntu.
guess what: It does run better.
try switching back and you'll get the full impact.

yes: you'll have to adopt some new programs. But the Linux programs are excellent!
Firefox rather than IE10
Thunderbird rather than Outlook
LibreOffice rather than MS/Office
"gThumb" is my choice for photos
they have oodles of music programs
huge library of app programs you can play with

it's definitey worth a look and you can start by just running a trial off a Ubuntu/Live CD
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