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Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
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stoneyh
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7/8/2013 | 6:23:03 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
You're absolutely correct Goober - I just got a ton of licenses for Win8 via MS assurance program and again, few if any will be installed. Same was true for the Windows 7 licenses I got back when it came out. People who think Windows 7 to Windows 8 will be too painful also realize Windows 8 to Linux or OS X would be even more painful and make even less sense from a management and applications standpoint.
CarGod01
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5/31/2013 | 10:22:15 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
LOL, I have only been using keyboard shortcuts since 1969.
Do you remember HP Basic?? Fortran, Cobol, Compiler...???
Computers had no video, no hard drives, no mouse...
If you think going back to keyboard shortcuts is the solution to W8 being designed wrong, you need to move to a different desk there in Redmond...
CarGod01
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5/31/2013 | 10:13:07 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
The designer(s) of the ribbon should be tattooed on his(their) forehead(s) with the word "PEDOPHILE" and thrown in prison, right after we are done waterboarding him(them). I actually learned to live with Open Office rather than dealing with the garbage the Ribbon made of MS Office.
I believe 'The Ribbon' is a worse idea than Microsoft Bob, worse than Vista and worse than the Metro interface being the default in W8.
I have gasoline and matches and I want someone 'fired'!!
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3/15/2013 | 12:18:45 AM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
Here's the thing. I had several boat anchors that I had no choice but to put linux on. Even made it look like Windows so the users could actually use it. And they couldn't. It is faster, but it isn't Windows, and 95 percent of users use Windows. There's a reason for the adage "Linux is free only if your time has absolutely no value whatsoever." However, in the Android case, it does what users want where they have no preconceived notions, unless they were unlucky enough to have Windows Phone, or iPhone.
billmelater
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3/15/2013 | 12:10:57 AM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
IF you know enough to make win8 boot directly into desktop, IF you needed the pro features, and IF you were savvy enough to get it for 14.99, then it is a fantastic bargain, as it is faster and has some nice touches over win7. For the other 98 percent of the world, bigger disaster than Microsoft Bob. I have 3 units running at work that users have no problem with, as well as a laptop with an 80 year old former xp user that is not having problems. Why? Because I spent about an hour on each unit banishing Metro. I needed Remote Desktop Server, and win8 pro for 14.99 beats win7 pro at 199.00. And that is probably the reason there were sales early. But as an OS that the average user could use, Bigger Fail than ME, and Vista. Seems that folks have no problem using Android and Windows. So why not two different systems from Ballmer, or at least an OS smart enough to figure out which interface you need? Oh. Balmer. Developers! Developers, Developers! Win 1 Commercial. Ballmer is a Buffoon. Or a Bassoon, the ill wind which no one blows good.
brendan's nickname
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1/31/2013 | 7:57:10 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
OMG I HATE it !!! What on earth is the point of changing the location of well known controls and interfaces? Who has time in the business day to relearn basic controls? I'm looking at an Explore directory window of a lot of files, right now, listed by NAME and IT"S NOT ALPHABETICAL. It's grouped by date groupings (last week, today) and I can't find my files to get my work done!!! This is NOT funny. It's like running with your pants down around your ankles. What the hell are they smoking?!?!?

Even though I will invalidate my new Dell warranty, I'm switching back to 7 Pro. I have no choice, this operating system is a crippling user experience!!!!!
aprice913
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1/1/2013 | 1:41:38 AM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
I am just getting ready to upgrade from Windows 7 to 8. From what I read in previous articles it would be good to upgrade. Through out the history of Microsoft it seems that their products should be cheaper, tighter code, more fluid with there command ribbons and actions, and more feature rich per command. This doesn't mean I don't like there products, I do. When Office 2007 came out I installed that and I love the ribbon it makes it easier to accomplish things.
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12/31/2012 | 3:40:16 AM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
My daughter is using Windows 8 on a new Lenovo laptop-tablet convertible, and is very happy with it. She is very knowledgeable about computers but they aren't her life. Me, I'm older, am a computer professional, and pretty happy with Windows 7. My laptop does not have a touch screen and my tablet is an iPad. I'm not about to rush into Windows 8, at least not until they bring back the Windows 7-style Start menu.
Jim Gawn.
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12/29/2012 | 6:58:23 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
You can get a third party Start Button. You can boot directly to Desktop (just google it),

I have upgraded an old slow dual core system and it is faster, more responsive, and useable now. I kept the Metro because I want to play with it, but I just brought tiles over from Apps of the programs I use a lot and clustered them with the Desktop icon. I then put icons of the programs I use on the bottom strip of the Desktop. I can go anywhere near the lower right corner and get to the power and search buttons.

Seems pretty close to my XP or Win 7 set up but faster. I may get to like Metro or not, but it is there if I want it and if I wanted to boot directly to Desktop in the future I can. Also there is a program included (I don't remember the weird name right now) that allows you to bypass the MS login also.
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12/29/2012 | 6:51:19 PM
re: Windows 8 Fizzling, Time For Windows Classic?
Windows 8 itself isn't the problem. There are two simple issues that make it unusable:
1. The Metro Interface is unusable for productivity.
2. The Start menu is gone.

Deploying Classic Shell or another Start menu replacement fixes the second issue. Once that part is done it's possible to simply ignore Metro and Windows 8 becomes a pretty good incremental upgrade from Windows 7, but I do miss the Aero transparency. Metro is a non-starter because it's not really Windows, is it? It has no Windows, just full screen apps.

It would be relatively trivial (on a technical basis) for Microsoft to restore the Start Menu and decouple Metro from the OS. Microsoft has doubled down on forcing the issue by dumping the Metro brand and calling it "The Windows 8 Interface." This is a mistake. Instead they should fork the Windows 8 brand and the Metro Brand. Metro may thrive on tablets - the market has yet to speak on that issue. But on the business desktop, Metro is another Microsoft Bob. Perhaps
Metro has a future in the tablet and touch screen space. But if Microsoft insists on conflating the Windows 8 brand with the horrible Metro interface, it's doomed, and deservedly so.
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