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jabberwolf
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12/1/2012 | 4:44:53 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
Im still amazed at the stupidity of those that write articles that havent used the OS for long and dont get what MS is doing by trying to unify everything under 1 OS.
One login, one set of services, and one set of applications under one ecosystem.

Im also amazed at the sheeple that commnent that ALSO havent used it, but have alot to say. I know the comment - I dont have to jump off a bridge to know i dont like it. But - do you also say, you dont need to drive a car, to know how to?! What, you just know by watching? Thats thats a very stupid assumption, and most people would actually drive a car before knowing how it performs, yet alone comment on it.
jiminthelab
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12/1/2012 | 4:40:21 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
Do the comments just get cut and pasted from one article to the next? its seems MS cant win here. If they kept the UI the same people would be saying that its tired and time to come up with something new.... and in this case they did change it and people are saying waaaaait a minute I miss the old ui. I think people just like to complain. Its changed deal with it. The new doesn't take that long to get used to, and once I did I find it much faster than the old start menu (mouse keyboard only). As for it looking flat, think of it this way. All that extra stuff that gave it depth and pretty (like glass) took a bunch of extra processing power from the video card resulting in unnecessary power drain and performance issues and honestly after a while you just don't notice it. Its still the same underneath and if you really want the start menu back there are 3rd party free apps out there to "bring it back". I switched to win8 and never looked back. Is there still bugs, yes, but that's what windows update is for.

Just as a test I loaded win8 + the latest office up on my Mom's machine and spent about 10 minutes explaining how the new ui works and then left her to it. She loved it. thought it was easy to navigate and use. Its been about a week now, she uses it on a daily basis and has had no problems with win8 or office.

jabberwolf
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jabberwolf,
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12/1/2012 | 4:39:48 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
No, MS has got it right. Its the i-tards that havent used Windows8 and dont understand why. It isnt a "NEW" experience.

Windows8 needs to be explained as what it is, a 2 MODE OS. One is desktop, the other is tablet. For the past year, there are only 2 or 3 things that I'd want on Win8.

And its simply to do with IE on Win8:
1- Put the start button back,
( I understand why they have 2 diferent IE modes and comparing the IPAD which has NO CHOICE - Win8 wins hands down. Having no funcionality/choice is not a feature and cant undestand the logic behind those that thing it is.)

2- Shortcuts - From tablet mode - Have a link to the desktop shortcuts as a permanent link button and nother to add as favorites. Some of us do have hundreds of favorites that we dont want to have to switch back to the desktop mode for.

Other than that - its working GREAT
So of the 5 ideas:
1- Its already really low
2- Agree- but you do realize that RT was to placate the ARM processors makers/ battery longevity. (though putting it in sleep mode my samsung series 7 will last a couple weeks when I open it up again. But constant use - ARM wins out. Not to mention, MS plan is to make all devices run the same OS. That includes future phones = thus they want developers to write for Win8/WP8.
3- Um DUH. They are doing this as fast as they can and its the fastest growing ecosystem ever. Captain Obvious?!
4-Because of #2 - YOU DONT GET IT, so please dont write another article like this until you do.
5- No - stupid stupid idea. Again you dont get it. BUT - they do have apps that put back the start button and launch you straight into Desktop mode. Again please use the damned thing before you make any "bright" suggestions!!
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Sandman366,
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12/1/2012 | 4:33:10 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
The last version of IE that I tried was 8. The last version of IE that was good was 6 or 7. I find it repulsive that some sites require me to use IE because they're useless coders. It's slow, clunky, and fat. It's a landmark against Microsoft: they only make it for one OS and can't develop a version better than, say, Chrome, which works very well on more than one OS. (Don't think Microsoft is thinking straight anymore.)
Sandman366
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Sandman366,
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12/1/2012 | 4:26:31 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
Just do #5 and go back to the old Windows logo. If I wanted to look at hideous squares, I'd look at a real window. The old one was better because of one word: aesthetics. It looked pretty.

If I wanted a tablet version of W8, I'd buy the tablet version, not install my desktop version on my tablet. I don't want the same experience on a desktop/laptop/tablet/smartphone, I expect to have slight differences between desktop/laptop and slight differences between tablet/smartphone, but MAJOR differences between desktop/laptop compared to tablet/smartphone.

I was iffy on 7 at first, but I've grown to like it. I don't want to grow to like 8. The "start" menu is an eyesore (in the way staring at rotten anything is an eyesore) and the logo looks stupid. (Quick, buy a couple copies of 7, before you can't!)
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12/1/2012 | 4:26:05 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
I just bought an Asus laptop on Black Friday. It came loaded with W8. I'm learning to like the display but really wish they left the start button. I also think for people that use their computer for both work and personal use, W8 should have one screen for work files, apps, etc... and another screen for your personal items. I don't mind seeing my personal pictures scroll while I'm at home, but some could be embarassing or just distracting while at work. But, I the worst thing is we're having a big problem using the Internet with W8. We tried to use Priceline.com and JetBlue.com but could not get serach results to display. We called the Geek Squad and two very helpful tech support puys to control of the laptop, changed some setting, rand ran diagostics. The first person took and hour and a half and could not fix the problem. The second guy took 6 hours and ran his tools until 4 AM. He left a note that said to use Explorer on these sites, as Chrome had a bug on W8 and these sites. That worked for Priceline, but neither browser will pull up results from JetBlue.
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BFRANKSTON000,
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12/1/2012 | 3:56:41 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
While it's not hard to think of the panel of apps as the new start button it would've been nice to have a more gradual transition. It would also be nice to have the Metro apps usable as desktop apps. That would go a long way towards unifying the experience and not forcing us into the problematic one app at a time mode - one of those really bad ideas that reduces a powerful device to a lame one. It would also help to allow full apps on the RT desktop.

W8 has many powerful features and the ability to move beyond their competition in having a single device that can be both a tablet and a computer - after all, a tablet is a computer. Power management shouldn't be a reason to rend the device lame.

The simplistic Metro experience should be available to some but Microsoft's strength is in sharing control with users and developers. It must not lose itself in Apple envy but instead should move ahead of the process.

The phone should also be more part of the experience as just another form factor and not a different world. Multiple login would allow the same kind of portable personalization for devices that aren't always single purpose one person devices.

A lot of this reminds me of tiled Windows in the 80's ... another attempt to be overly helpful.

For me, it's wonderful to have a single device that portable and powerful. It may take a while for people to appreciate the value.
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12/1/2012 | 3:55:26 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
I almost forgot MICROSTUPID..If people want tablet they can get one for less than $100 bucks and NOT have to deal with the CONSTANT Security Flaws in IE - Only the MOST Unsecure Browser there has EVER been.. and for some of us ... WE DO NOT WANT TO BE SIGNED IN TO EVERY SITE WE FREQUENT FROM BOOT ... Shhhhh Another sign of TRACKING YOUR EVERY MOVE !
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GalacticCannibal,
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12/1/2012 | 3:45:42 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
We installed Windows 8 BETA about six months ago . And found it totally confusing. And we sorely miss the START button and XP type format.
We use Dell and HP desktops. Hope that Microsoft will bring back the START button format or include it in their new TILE format.
We think Microsoft got it all wrong when they replaced their old XP and START button , with the Tablet and iPad systems
llynn
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12/1/2012 | 3:40:06 PM
re: 5 Ways Microsoft Can Save Windows 8
Windows 8 is NOT built and or made for a Desktop . This is strictly a tablet OS .
Microstupid once again showed us all that they could careless about what the consumer wants and they care ONLY for Insane Obscene ASTRONOMICAL Pofits .. which this time they willnot be getting because ANYONE who tried the beta on a desktop found out this ALL TABLET STYLE no one really cares for . Google has done it to gmail , you tube and all Google products , Microstupid & Yahoo are / have done the same . Its so flat and boring all over now.
Its like back to XP an OS with NO DEPTH .
The really stupid thing is we all have HD screens now so why on earth would we want to have a system that is so flat , blocky and boring .
Or is this just another way they TRY to do away with the PC ?
Another way of Tracking US all. All tablets have WIFI and GPS Pre-installed so.... well its really not too hard to see threw the BS .
I tried Windows 8's beta version I reinstalled Windows 7 within a week . its a very Confusing OS , For some non tech savvy people .. IT WILL JUST NEVER FLY !
I run all kinds of modified OS's on my desktop and my Galaxy Nexus .
So yes as a developer ..... I know the game they are going for .Microstupid You will never get me to get rid of my desktop !
As for what Microstupid has now done to HOTMAIL ... I wont even use it anymore and hate what Google did to gmail ..
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