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What PC Makers Must Do Now
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moarsauce123
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moarsauce123,
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1/21/2013 | 5:58:44 PM
re: What PC Makers Must Do Now
And the pedals are in the same place on other OS as well. How come that gazillion of people have no problem using their smartphones and tablets? That vast majority of them does not run anything Windows.
Did you have your mom use Win8? Most of the knowledge she accumulated about Windows is useless on Win8.
bwdolphan
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bwdolphan,
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1/21/2013 | 4:13:01 PM
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Almost everyone reading and responding here pretty much knows their way around technology, so the focus is on the OS.

Remember the early days - you decided what you wanted your computer do do and then bought the appropriate configuration. That axiom has not changed.

The majority of consumers just want to be able to use their software as they have in the past and don't give rat's patootie what operating system is underneath it all. ...until it gets in the way that is.

I bought my wife, who is not a techie, a new laptop with Win8 on it. For her, it was absolutely and completely unusable - until I loaded Classic Shell on it. Even then, there was a small learning curve; one that should have been totally unnecessary.

I have no ax to grind with Microsoft, but geez, don't they consumer test these things with real people?
jqb
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jqb,
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1/20/2013 | 5:10:09 PM
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Mike:
You are dead-on correct. In my own small computer tech business this scenario is exactly what is playing out - Win8 with Classic Shell (or any other) is quite nice, fast, and efficient.Clients that ignored my advice and got Win8 anyway have that look like "The Scream" by Edward Munch until I slap Classic Shell on: after that, happiness ensues.

There is still an issue with the difference between applications and apps, and the heavy-handed "register for your Microsoft account now" aspect, but that is minor compared to the desktop disaster that is the Metro UI (yes, I am still calling it "Metro", just to p-off Microsoft).
Bob Gill
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Bob Gill,
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1/20/2013 | 1:58:06 AM
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Get over it. Windows 7 is awesome and Windows 8 is incredible with the right hardware (including a touch or near touch screen.

Pi's are fine, but the gas pedal is on the right and brake pedal in the middle. My mom knows Windows and she ain't changing.
moarsauce123
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moarsauce123,
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1/19/2013 | 11:48:25 AM
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What PC makers need to do is invest into alternatives to Windows. Just because Microsoft made a crappy OS should be no reason why PC makers need to close shop. Single vendor strategies consistently fail in various industries, the PC industry is no different. The argument that customers will not accept a Linux based system is just wrong. They happily accept the Android based systems and OS X is based on BSD. The key is to wrap this into a prettier shell and above all create drivers that work reliably.
Given how much a 700MHz Raspberry Pi can do at a cost of 35$ it should be incredible what a 350$ piece of hardware can do....as long as it is not running Windows sucking the life out of it.
kmarko
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1/18/2013 | 8:39:10 PM
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Although you're right that Windows 8 is better than 7, the problem with severing the link between Windows 8 and the Modern UI is that it's not better enough to get most people, and more importantly, most enterprises, to upgrade. I'm wondering if Win8 could be tweaked enough to work with a high-quality, multitouch touchpad like Apple's Magic Trackpad to emulate enough of the touch screen functionality without needing an entirely new screen. Perhaps fork Win8 into a laptop/touchpad optimized version and a pure tablet version. But you're right, Microsoft must make some changes because as is, Win8 certainly isn't lighting the market on fire.
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1/18/2013 | 6:51:21 PM
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I have a smart phone, iPad, and a huge screen laptop. Each one serves a different purpose in my busy day, both at work and at play. The laptop allows me to use several different huge memory and cpu spaces to complete my daily work. The laptop is a little large to take to meetings for notes, so I use my iPad for note taking. I sometimes use my smart phone for email, etc. I don't want to have to give up any of the three.

I despair of finding another laptop like my current one - large capacity laptops seem to have bitten the dust as far as vendors are concerned (even AlienWare seems to be dropping out). I'm one of those people will pay for the capabilities - more memory, faster chips, more screen space, more drive space and more connecters. Even desktops seem to want to shed capability in order to get below a certain price point.

As someone who works all day on my laptop I hate when I have to leave the keyboard to use the mouse just because some software developer thought I should. I can't imagine the annoyance I would feel if I had to touch the screen to do something. I clean my laptop screen once a week, but I'm continually cleaning my iPad and phone. A clear case of just because I can doesn't mean I should.
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1/18/2013 | 4:01:59 PM
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my 2 cents. PCs and Laptops were, at one time, the only way to get to the Internet and the only way in which to play the "cool" games. Today, there are many devices to choose from for getting to the Internet and playing all the "cool" games. Thus a PC or laptop isn't as desireable or necessary as they once were. Thus HP, Dell who make PCs will see a decline in PC sales, and Microsoft will see a decline in Windows O/S sales because of the different choices available to surf the web and play the "cool" games.

The Caveat is, no one wants to only look at a 5" or 10" screen in which to surf the Internet or play "cool" games.Ask 10 people if they were willing to give up their 23" desktop screen in favor for their 5" phone or 10" tablet at home and at work, I would venture 9 out of 10 would say no.
If anything, the bigger the screen, the better.

But for getting your emails, Twitters, Facebooks, mobile devices are simply better because their mobile.

how to make PCs the hot item again? Create a really "cool" game that everyone will want to play that will only run on a desktop with desktop graphics. If you port it to XBox or PSP3, no one will buy it for the PC because, XBox and PSP3s are cheaper. Why buy a $1000.00 or $2,000 PC to play a video game that can run on a $400.00 console.


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