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Oracle Legacy Apps Holding Fusion Back, Says Forrester
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GaneshS687
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GaneshS687,
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8/29/2014 | 8:29:53 AM
re: Oracle Legacy Apps Holding Fusion Back, Says Forrester
Just because some of these apps are so old does not mean they are not delivering what the business needs. Many of these so called legacy apps are built using powerful 4GL tools in the 90s and the current crop of web applications are pathetic including Fusion apps. The problem is with the media hype which categorizes a technology as legacy without looking at the maturity of the tool and the ease of development. I would strongly recommend reinventing Oracle D2k as the tool stack for developing new applications instead of wasting on Oracle fusion which is based on a Java framework which is a 3GL and will be one step backward. Also, do not look at web applications to solve your ERP requirements as they are all based on these amateur web development tools.
GaneshS687
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GaneshS687,
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8/29/2014 | 8:19:32 AM
re: Oracle Legacy Apps Holding Fusion Back, Says Forrester
Fusion apps are not proven yet. Moreover, they are based on a Java framework and Java itself, even after 20 years, is still not in the same maturity level which a 4GL so called Legacy tool back then in the 90's. Let's face it, if a tool lacks the capability of being a RAD, it is never going to be accepted by the Business users. Java development has never been at 4GL standards and this explains why Oracle Forms is still preferred. I would strongly recommend Oracle to look at the 4GL tools and reinvent them for the current age. They can look at investing on Oracle D2k as a viable technology framework instead of frittering away their energy on Java which is never going to make the cut. Oracle should realize the futility of investing in Fusion which is never going to be a true 4GL.
negi86
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3/6/2013 | 8:15:01 AM
re: Oracle Legacy Apps Holding Fusion Back, Says Forrester
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lgarey@techweb.com
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lgarey@techweb.com,
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2/13/2013 | 3:21:44 PM
re: Oracle Legacy Apps Holding Fusion Back, Says Forrester
Or, by stopping support at some point, Oracle could move some savings to dev, as Doug sggests, and use some to lower costs so that its new suites can compete with SaaS offerings. It does not seem sustainable to support everything forever. IT will get over it with Win XP, they'll get over it with Oracle. Lorna Garey, IW Reports
D. Henschen
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2/12/2013 | 7:52:25 PM
re: Oracle Legacy Apps Holding Fusion Back, Says Forrester
I can't agree that it's the right move to promise unending support for apps developed as long ago at 1977 (JD Edwards), 1987 (PeopleSoft), or even 1993 (Siebel). Supporting and upgrading applications costs a lot of money, and each dollar spent on new development could go toward new cloud apps that could carry Oracle past 2020. The Apps Unlimited Promise should have been "Apps Until 2015." Maybe SAP will discover the downside of the "Business Suite 7 until 2020" strategy. But then, SAP has only one suite to keep up to date.
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2/12/2013 | 6:00:54 PM
re: Oracle Legacy Apps Holding Fusion Back, Says Forrester
It feels like Oracle is between a rock and a hard place here, but it also seems like they've done everything they can, supporting legacy apps, offering new apps, allowing application delivery in every possible form. In short, they've made all the right moves. That's all assuming that Fusion applications are worth the price of admission. If so, Oracle will see success eventually, I believe. But at the same time, there's tremendous risk: Customers who may consider change will also consider alternatives, and that could mean success for players like Workday and Salesforce, as well as SAP. It's all there on the line for Oracle to win or lose.


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