H-1B Workers Not Best Or Brightest, Study Says
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User Rank: Apprentice
3/4/2013 | 8:08:10 PM
re: H-1B Workers Not Best Or Brightest, Study Says
First, I strongly believe that there really IS a shortage in U.S. I.T. talent. It is not just a wage & labor issue.

Second, with the current economy, are companies willing (keyword willing) to pay U.S. talent with high salaries & benefits when they can get a U.S. talent behinf the backs of a team of foreign talents to lead, train & inspect? As I've said CEO's of petitioning companies are not stupid with respect to their stockholders. They will not compromise the quality of their brand, product & service for inferior talent because that will equate to loss.

Third, I seriously think that a FEW of the current U.S. I.T. talents are a bunch of whiners who does not want to get out of their "comfort zones" and face global competition when this co was the primary and pioneering proponent for it.

As I've said, us Americans were enjoying the fruits of offshoring/outsourcing during the heydays of the economy but when it came back to bite us in the ass, the never-ending complaints & whining just never stopped like the housing bubble and healthcare jobs.

The real lesson here is GREED.
User Rank: Apprentice
3/4/2013 | 8:00:26 PM
re: H-1B Workers Not Best Or Brightest, Study Says
I don't think there's a easy measurement available to determine if a foreign worker is talented or not. From what I read here, this study tries to use salary to determine if the foreign workers are more talented than their US counter part. This is not a fair comparison. Despite Federal law tries to prevent foreign workers from being exploited, the foreign workers on H1-B visa tend to get lower salary because they are on H1-B visa. It is also less likely for the foreign workers be promoted and moved to a managerial position due to communication barrier. Therefore, you can't just use salary as a basis to draw the conclusion on "talent" in this case.
User Rank: Apprentice
3/4/2013 | 6:09:05 PM
re: H-1B Workers Not Best Or Brightest, Study Says
My company started replacing our in-house tech support folks a few years ago. It now takes several foreign workers a week to do what it used to take one person 15 minutes, or at most one workday, to do. So...where are the savings? This is the kind of information that middle managers seem to like to keep from upper management.
User Rank: Strategist
3/4/2013 | 2:43:10 PM
re: H-1B Workers Not Best Or Brightest, Study Says
Folks, there is a very easy way to find out what they are getting paid, and trust me, it is much less than what you believe.

Google 1042S and IRS Databook and study them.

Take the 1042S and divide the amount that was paid to all of them by the quantity of filers.

I think you will be shocked.

Then, divide the taxes paid by the gross pay and compare it to the 1040 types on the latest irs databook.

By the way, I want to hear from any and all who have seen their jobs go offshore, or watched visa holders imported.

My email is

Since nobody seems to be stepping up to the plate, I have decided to do it.
With your permission I want to tell your story at Keep America At Work

If you don't want that, I just want to use your story to get an accurate count

My suspicion is that the number is greater than we think.

Also, I would like for all of you to sign my petition to end age discrimination in the software industry.

The details can be found at Keep America At Work.

Even if it is NOT age discrimination, the last story in this article shows what many of us are going through and this story needs to be told
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