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7/5/2013 | 10:23:54 AM
re: IT Talent Shortage Or Purple Squirrel Hunt?
Its not even training. There are fully competent workers who apply to these jobs who aren't even interviewed. Because there's a glut. Or because they don't want to give the new hire a week to read a book on the differences between DOS 3.2 and DOS 3.3.
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7/5/2013 | 10:21:16 AM
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H-1B's at $155k are exceedingly rare.
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7/5/2013 | 10:15:25 AM
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Look buddy, I graduated nearly at the top of my class, in EE/CS, in 2002. Have submitted my resume thousands of times to tech firms that claim to be looking to hire. I can count the replies to my applications on my fingers. There is no shortage of talent, or skill. There is a huge glut which is made even worse by the H-1B visa. The majority of IT projects fail because talented people like myself and my peers are being left on the sidelines while less than competent talent, usually on H-1B, is being hired in our places.
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7/5/2013 | 10:13:19 AM
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Firms receive often hundreds, sometimes thousands of applications for a single position in the software sector. I know domestic grads who have spent much of the past decade applying for jobs, not working, because of this nonsense. There is no shortage of talent, there is simply a shortage of employers motivated to pick up the phone and start hiring.
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4/14/2013 | 5:04:19 PM
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Training is a widely used option. Consider that only a portion of the 65,000 are IT workers, the IT industry still needs hundreds of thousands of IT workers to fulfil their needs. H-1Bs form only a drop in the ocean. So the vast majority still needs training and does get it.
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4/14/2013 | 5:01:32 PM
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A lot of the immigrants eventually settled in the U.S., so I doubt technology transfer is such a big contributor. The vast majority of startups in China and Russia are by locally-trained engineers, or U.S. university grads that went home immediately after without taking an H-1B.

Add to that the fact that electronics and IT were technologies that experienced a lot of development in the 80s outside the U.S. and a lot of the diffusion of skills in countries apart from the U.S. are down to external developments.

Also, just because your lost dominance correlates with an increase in the numbers of immigrant workers doesn't mean there is causation. American dominance in the automobile industry was lost even without the "scourge" of immigrants. The world is very much capable of developing technologies and skills without everything needing to emanate America. To assume such is a fallacy.

Remember also that two decades ago, when you claim that there was "dominance", there was already a significant proportion of software workers not being American-born.

Unless you can come up with the numbers of how many immigrant workers in the Valley went home, it is very hard to prove a "brain drain" of sorts.
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4/14/2013 | 4:54:45 PM
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A lot of the technology that you claim as American-made had in fact, a lot of contribution from immigrants. So your point is quite moot.
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4/14/2013 | 4:50:59 PM
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The H-1B application data is available and in the public domain. It would be handy if someone evidence if you could actually collate how many of the 65,000 every year in IT actually earn below $50,000 wages. Last time I check, it wasn't too prevalent.

Finally, of course, I think it's absurd to lay the blame of larger structural problems in the industry on the H-1B scheme, when this is a drop in the ocean of the total labor force in IT.

Personally, I'd like to see the H-1B scheme scrapped, just so we can all see how the American IT industry will take a hit. The fact of the matter is, detractors like to focus on a few anecdotes of bad H-1B workers (which are bound to slip through) and utterly ignore the plnetiful success stories.
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4/14/2013 | 4:44:59 PM
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Why would Corporate America be willing to pay the exact same cost to train an Indian worker? They don't save any money that way?
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4/14/2013 | 4:38:45 PM
re: IT Talent Shortage Or Purple Squirrel Hunt?
Maybe you really are not skilled enough for the jobs you are seeking?

The vast majority of software workers in America are still Americans. It is still dominated by Americans. So if they seem to be doing okay, maybe it's time to look inwards, rather than outwards for the root cause of your predicaments?

Obviously, I can't claim to know you that well, but right off the bat I won't immediately call your CV impressive. You also need to align your pay and seniority expectations with your CV.
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