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Facebook Phone: 5 Must-Haves
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Andrew Hornback
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4/3/2013 | 2:37:15 AM
re: Facebook Phone: 5 Must-Haves
I honestly think this is something that the rest of the world can do without. A Facebook phone, really? As it is, they seem to have gotten the latest version of their Android app really wrong - maybe it's a ploy to make sure that the Facebook addicts out there will be moving to their shiny new device if/when it hits the street.

And given what Apple's done in the past with keeping tabs on users via their GPS readings, I have to wonder if Facebook is going to try to give users the option to let them check in and get points (or whatever that doesn't mean much in the real world) while feeding the big blue F with even more data to analyze and, in turn, feed their advertisers. I can see localized ads being served... like an ad for a burger joint with golden arches showing up the next time a user makes a run for the border or popping up an ad for a car dealership or rental car agency for someone sitting at a bus stop or railway station.

To get market share, I figure Facebook is going to make these phones as cheap as possible... and as cheaply as possible. The data that they're going to gather and feed their platform will more than offset the cost of underwriting a few cheaply made handsets in very short order.

Maybe one day users will wake up and realize that Facebook is simply a large advertising platform and really not adding much to their lives. Got there myself a little while ago and disabled my account - quite freeing, to tell the truth.

Andrew Hornback
InformationWeek Contributor (and no longer on Facebook)
Deb Donston-Miller
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4/4/2013 | 1:23:28 AM
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I'd love to hear how your social experiment (life without Facebook) goes. I have been hearing of more and more people cutting the Facebook cord. I think all the clutter is getting to be too much.

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, The BrainYard
GBARRINGTON196
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GBARRINGTON196,
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4/3/2013 | 2:03:02 PM
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Aside from the fact that I personally think Facebook is for morons, What is the value added for the customer? What can Facebook possibly offer that isn't already offered by Google or Apple?

Now FB can argue, "We'll do the same thing, only better!" But in what areas, exactly, are Google and Apple under serving the market? The people you want to do better than, have to be doing a not very good job before you can improve on their performance enough to steal customers from them. Granted both "G" and "A" make some incredibly boneheaded moves from time to time, but do those moves TRULY rise to the level to justify customer flight? I don't think so.
Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/4/2013 | 1:24:54 AM
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Thanks for the comment! I am really interested to hear what Facebook has to say on Thursday. I agree that they really have to offer a lot more than what they offer now to get people to not only switch phones but also to have Facebook the first thing staring at them when they turn on their phones.

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, The BrainYard
Bob Gill
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4/3/2013 | 4:51:27 PM
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I've never understood the idea of dumping a phone to go to another in less than 2 years, unless your current phone is faulty. Many of my friends have iPhones, but I can't think of a single one that dumped their current iPhone to get a new version before their 2 year contract was up.

With the T-Mobile change and possibly others starting to following the rest-of-world model in the USA, where people pay full price for their phones, I'd expect to see people holding on longer than 3 years.
Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/4/2013 | 1:27:21 AM
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That's a great point--thank you! I happen to know some died-in-the-wool technophiles, many of whom WILL update their phones before their two years is up because they can't stand the thought of not having the latest and greatest. But, you're right--if people start paying full price for their phones, which is possible if T-Mobile's model takes off, they won't be quick to switch.

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, The BrainYard
pblanc108
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4/3/2013 | 4:55:14 PM
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I traded in my android phone (Galaxy III). Android is too fragmented, quirky, unstable, lagged, crashed, unreliable etc, etc. Not to mention that the build quality of the Galaxy is very cheap.
I now use the iphone5 and it is near perfection. It is built with very high end materials and build quality. It is fast, fluid, powerful and light. It is so reliable and works every time. Most of my office traded android for apple as well as the nokia windows 8 phone, another very capable, stable and powerful platform.
Why any would want or switch to a Facebook phone defies reason. Windows 8 and IOS will dominate this arena at the expense of android and subpar products from the likes of Facebbok
Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/4/2013 | 1:28:21 AM
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The Android platform is also seeing more and more malware. That will be a big consideration, too, I'd imagine.

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, The BrainYard
proberts551
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4/3/2013 | 5:06:50 PM
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The problem with Facebook is that the user HAS NO PRIVACY. Employers, businesses, individuals have sued people for placing up any opionion to their friends or family that might be damaging to a business. So, if an auto mechanic shop is not fixing problems that I payed for, and are not taliing charge of warranty....I cannot tell my friends, and family?
Schools, Government, and everyone else seems to be able to get inot these accounts. Please, I do not need them in my phone as well! My phone already tracks me....unless I am very careful. If someone wants to pay me for providing my information on where I shop, where I go, then they can send me a check in the mail for my services, or ... my phone is off until I need it.
Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/4/2013 | 1:30:02 AM
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Great point. Users are already suspicious of Facebook--why would they invite the platform to be the heartbeat of their phones?

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, The BrainYard
proberts551
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4/3/2013 | 5:09:08 PM
re: Facebook Phone: 5 Must-Haves
The problem I have with Facebook is that the user HAS NO PRIVACY. Employers, businesses, individuals have sued people for placing up any opinion to their friends or family that might be damaging to a business. So, if an auto mechanic shop is not fixing problems that I payed for, and are not taking charge of warranty....I cannot tell my friends, and family not to go there? ...on Facebook.
Schools, Government, and everyone else seems to be able to get into these accounts. Please, I do not need them in my phone as well! My phone already tracks me....unless I am very careful. If someone wants to pay me for providing my information on where I shop, where I go, then they can send me a check in the mail for my services, or ... or I could turn the phone off until I need it?
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4/4/2013 | 12:53:26 AM
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I took FB off my iPhone because it was a distraction. Now I look at it less and less. If they do a "real" mobile version and address some of what is in your article, they still have to run ads or other junk. And the mobile screen makes that even more annoying. Unless the service was free (as well as the hardware) why would I pay, say, Verizon to allow FB to collect market data on me?

Forget FB and consider what might be actually interesting changes in the phone and tablet space. Look at Google. They got Android to a good market share. But now they are pushing Chrome for tablets as the OS. So will there be a convergence of Chrome and Android to have a common platform the way Microsoft is going? That would be way more interesting than a FB phone.
Deb Donston-Miller
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4/4/2013 | 1:31:29 AM
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I agree. And Microsoft has not done so well with its "forked" tablet OS strategy.

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, The BrainYard
Cara Latham
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4/4/2013 | 1:49:51 PM
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I agree with most of the comments here; additionally, I think you are spot on with your points here, Deb. For tarters, the Facebook messages rarely work on my phone as it currently stands. Not only would this have to be fixed, I assume, for others to be inclined to use it, but it would have to be more integrated with other functions of the phone. For example, can I message someone by finding his or her name in my contacts and composing the message from there?

I would never want to own a phone that features Facebook so intrusively, but if I ever were to become so inclined, these features you mention would definitely need to be included.
Melanie Rodier
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4/8/2013 | 4:17:00 PM
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I agree that promoted posts on Facebook are getting incredibly annoying. I certainly would not want a phone that featured Facebook as soon as I turned it on, especially given that Facebook, as you point out, Deb, "chooses" which stories the user wants to see. Plus, it is pushing the monetization aspect to such an obvious extent that FB will soon lose more customers to other social networks that are far less intrusive. I agree that only a free phone could sway large number to switch to Facebook's model.


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