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Oracle's Breathless Run To OpenWorld
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10/3/2011 | 6:19:18 AM
re: Oracle's Breathless Run To OpenWorld
Fritz, pick a story. Everything below paragraph two has nothing to do with the headline.

Do some investigation before you just print whatever Oracle tells you. When Oracle tells you that Sparc T4 runs seven billion times as fast as Power, you should investigate if that is true. That would be the reporting part. Oracle's PR office can distribute their propaganda. The T4 is just warmed over T3 (only the S3 core has changed) with a hyper-threading feature that was available on Power Systems years ago. As BPM said below, the benchmarks were ludicrous comparisons by any standard. How about asking Oracle, being that T4 is blowing away everything on the market in their opinion, why they still use Intel x86 in all of their flagship Exa systems? Are they trying to put themselves at a competitive disadvantage and ship profits to Intel?
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10/3/2011 | 5:59:07 AM
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Yes, if T4 is as good as Oracle says it is, and they are not just playing games with benchmarks in standard Oracle fashion, why don't they use it on any of their Exa boxes? I guess because they like writing Intel checks that they could be writing themselves and the purposely want to put themselves at a competitive disadvantage by using x86 because to put Sparc in an Exa box would literally make your head explode.... It is just nonsense. Who, other than Fritz, believes this stuff? Their claims are directly contradicted by their product line.
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9/29/2011 | 9:40:39 PM
re: Oracle's Breathless Run To OpenWorld
Fritz -- who pays you ... Informationn Week or Oracle or both -- the points above on the T4 and the Oracle benchmark is a Completely Ridiculous Arrogant Pile-Of-Poop (that's right CRAP).
So some facts --
* Oracle's SPECjEnterprise2010 Java T4 benchmark result needed four times the number of application nodes, twice the number of cores, almost four times the amount of memory and significantly more storage than the IBM POWER7 - Oracle's price/performance and space metric claims (which are not even official benchmark metrics) were calculated only for the application tier of this benchmark, basically ignoring the all-important database server, software and storage.
* Oracle's T4 TPC-H 1TB BI benchmark result, another benchmark which was highlighted, actually had a longer load time than the IBM result from last year. Oracle's storage use was ludicrous. Oracle's total storage needed to the database size ratio was 10.80 compared to the IBM value of 3.97
Do me a favor - read http://benchmarkingblog.wordpr...

The T4 shows Oracle's inability to do hardware -- the roadmap for SPARC is frightening abysmal ... the only friend Oracle had in the hardware business was HP -- and then Mark and Larry torched that relationship. Acquiring Sun was one of the worst moves Larry has ever done -- and it is being reinforced with more CRAP. If people want to run Oracle or WebLogic (which is not advisable either) -- they would be better off running on IBM pSeries or an Intel box or a Abacus. SAP knows this !! We are tired of seeing drivel and CRAP from Oracle -- and it is even worse when credible magazines can print this stuff -- good luck -- I think the National Enquirer needs a new reporter.


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