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5 Social Blunders Job Hunters Must Avoid
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Eric Johansson
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Eric Johansson,
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4/23/2013 | 8:32:15 PM
re: 5 Social Blunders Job Hunters Must Avoid
I don't share because:
1) I have nothing to say
2) somebody else said it faster/better than I could
3) I would rather spend time with people in meet space than online.

Back in the heyday of USENET, we had him him him him similar guidelines about being visible. I was a well recognized authority in e-mail, sender pays anti-spam, end-user friendly firewalls.. Got me nothing. it was almost like working a second job keeping up with the USENET traffic and helping people. Just wasn't worth it. I would have been better off meeting with my peers face-to-face and specifically, meeting with people who were not even in the technology field socially and professionally.

Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/24/2013 | 3:19:18 AM
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Thanks for your comment, Eric. Isn't depending on face-to-face meetings kind of limiting? I agree that it is work to keep up with communications on social networks--work that some like better than others. I think it officially goes with the territory of being a professional these days, though.

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, InformationWeek/The BrainYard
Eric Johansson
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Eric Johansson,
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4/24/2013 | 1:17:35 PM
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people forget the old maxim: it's better to be silent and thought a fool than open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

I've been in the field of very long time and it used to be you that recognition by conference presentations but then the quality of presentations went down because people were trying to get presented rather than convey good quality research. Now, people try to get recognition by publishing stuff in social media and as far as I'm concerned, 99.999% of it was better off not said.

Me? I will publish what I have something worth saying. For example I'm working on a set of tools so that disabled programmers using speech recognition can keep working as programmers. I'm also working on a web framework which works with them rather than against them. That's worth publishing. But it's not something I would publish about every week. It's when I have something done and worth showing.

So in the meantime, I will continue to post on Facebook snarky political commentaries found elsewhere, links to amazingly good jpop and sound cloud music, and pictures shaming cute puppies. if the post takes me more than 30 seconds, it doesn't get done and I am way past my limit on this one

Yours in removing all doubt,
--- eric
Deirdre Blake
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Deirdre Blake,
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4/25/2013 | 3:19:17 PM
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Hey Eric, thanks for sharing ;> And when you're done with that project on programming through speech recognition, contact us at Dr. Dobb's to discuss publicizing it!
Nathaniel Hansen
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Nathaniel Hansen,
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4/23/2013 | 8:37:31 PM
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Excellent article. Direct, to the point and clear.

AND, let us also not forget that these exact "mistakes" may lead one to a corporate culture best suited to one's personality as well.

Let us take, for example, Undersharing. An entity focused on discreet business, such as a private bank, will value one who undershares, yet has attended the right institutions, academies and has membership in established professional organizations.

Now, on to Oversharing. Although most entities would not want someone to share too much about their activities, they may value the enthusiasm and spunk in a vibrantly social individual. Take an after-school program, for example, where the administrators want a person who is going to have "un-ending" energy to play games, sports, and engage in the infinite banter of adolescence.

Let us look finally at the "party-on" persona in Facebook vs. the buttoned-up appearance in LinkedIn. This juxtaposition is commonly judged in articles about HR and social networks. But nothing could be further from the truth!! The most buttoned-up bankers in London and New York are right away at the pub and bar after work celebrating and chatting. And who would want to work with a lifeless entity whose HR didn't understand that?

To quote the mythologist Joseph Campbell, "Where you stumble, there lies your treasure." One may find both a rewarding culture AND a rewarding career path AND a substantial salary simply by having shown up in the right pub at the right time.

Nathaniel Hansen
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The Socializers
Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/24/2013 | 3:20:54 AM
re: 5 Social Blunders Job Hunters Must Avoid
Thanks for your comments, Nathaniel. You bring some really interesting perspective to the discussion!

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, InformationWeek/The BrainYard
JedediahGoodson
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JedediahGoodson,
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4/25/2013 | 3:55:11 PM
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@nathaniel,

Great response to this article. I liked how you added context to the original article. Personally, I want very much to agree with Eric Johannson (who makes a valid point about sharing only when you have something to say). I also can appreciate how people have made it such that we pretty much have to share sometimes as per Deb's article (the reality of being a professional).

My employer does appreciate the fact that I am under-sharing. The field I work in mandates a high responsibilty and at least an appearance of a strong moral compass.

I am certain the peers in my area would reduce their opinion of someone with your average social footprint and all the digital flotsam that accumulates when using all the various services that people use.

Deb mentions how employers may pass you over for under-sharing or inconsistent personas. I would like to share that I was once almost passed up for a persona that wasn't even me. It was simply someone who had my real name and he came up in google-stalking and the potential employer (who was not the hiring decider I later found out) asked me about why I do and said the the things I did. When I pointed out he was referring to a different person than me he was aghast and told me how he lobbied against me based on information he misread. Another potential hazard of social media: mistaken identity.

Regardless of one's opinion on the matter I think we can all agree sharing takes time and that can really add up. I spent over ten minutes writing this so I don't sound like a buffoon - and I may or may not have succeeded in that!
Kristin Rice
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Kristin Rice,
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4/24/2013 | 2:43:17 AM
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These are great tips for someone like me who is trying to increase my social media presence beyond Facebook and LinkedIn. Thanks for sharing.
Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/24/2013 | 3:22:09 AM
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Thanks for your kind words, Kristin. I'm glad it was helpful to you!

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, InformationWeek/The BrainYard
Kristin Rice
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Kristin Rice,
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4/24/2013 | 2:43:49 AM
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These are great tips for someone like me who is trying to increase my social media presence beyond Facebook and LinkedIn. Thanks for sharing.
Deb Donston-Miller
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Deb Donston-Miller,
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4/25/2013 | 12:36:23 AM
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Thanks for your comment! I think there is bound to be more intersection of social media moving forward, so the twain will definitely meet!

Deb Donston-Miller
Contributing Editor, The BrainYard
moarsauce123
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moarsauce123,
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4/27/2013 | 1:35:34 PM
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Have we come that far that prostituting oneself on social networks is as important as having actual skills?
Michael Endler
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Michael Endler,
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4/28/2013 | 9:02:51 PM
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I think that speaks to the above conflict: sharing because you have something to say vs. sharing because there's a company mandate to do so. Social media can be a great when governed by strategy and ethics. I don't think, in principle, it's bad for companies to embrace social; rather, the way some companies do so is bad.

Michael Endler, IW Associate Editor
NJ Mike
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NJ Mike,
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4/29/2013 | 7:24:18 PM
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Why should my company care about my Facebook postings (or lack thereof) unless I'm posting information about the company. I never post work related stuff on Facebook, so why should my employer be concerned. And, as I do it on my own time, they can't dictate that I do.
NJ Mike
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NJ Mike,
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4/29/2013 | 6:02:50 PM
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Did I miss something? Just a few months ago, I was reading about outrage that interviewers were asking job applicants for the Facebook id's and passwords or requesting that they friend the company so they (the company) can see what they (the job applicant) posted on Facebook. Now all of a sudden, nobody has a problem with your employer looking at your Facebook page, and we're being advised how to use these accounts to either advance or, at a minimum, not hurt our careers.
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kalakagatha,
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5/2/2013 | 10:07:30 PM
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Is there ANY evidence that organizations which emphasize the use of social networks see increased productivity/profitability/ANYTHING positive? I ask this question openly, but I must admit that I am EXTREMELY dubious at the workplace value of Facebook et al. Facebook got its start right as I started college, and it always seemed to me that Facebook's primary use was to distract yourself from getting actual work done or acquiring new skills or knowledge, in other words, the business of college. The work I have done since starting my career has (thankfully) involved absolutely zero social media, so perhaps in the intervening years something useful has come out of it, but again, I remain doubtful. Certainly if I did the hiring for my organization, I would value a candidate's intelligence and competence far more than his or her devotion to spending an hour or two each day cultivating a social network "professional persona".


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