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Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
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AustinIT
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5/9/2013 | 9:00:14 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
Oh well, things change... constantly. And, it's not just Microsoft. Ask any Google user how frustrated they are to see Google pull the plug on services that they have relied on for a long time.
The problem with gadgets (and plugins, addons, etc.) are that they have become a conduit for malware to penetrate and infect a PC. You can thank the criminal element for ruining things for the rest of us. So now, Microsoft is controlling app delivery (Modern apps) via their App Store, much like Apple is doing whereby they can vette software that is being installed on the Modern UI.
DAVIDINIL
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5/9/2013 | 8:21:07 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
I have tons of issues w/ Win 8. I had to do a youtube search and watch a video just to figure out how to launch wordpad. I will be typing in wordpad and the weather page suddenly appears. I'm sorry did I click on some weather button? No I did not.
I tried to put a new user account on my sons machine. I go thru all the screens (it wants my name, address, email, phone #). I hit enter and find out that the machine couldn't communicate w/ a server in Redmond. So I could not establish a user account on my own machine. Nice.
I am not a luddite. I loved Win 7 from the get go. Win 8 is simply unusable for the reasons I posted and many others that wouldn't fit in this comment box.
bperrin34601
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5/9/2013 | 8:19:38 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
It is refreshing to see some of the people who actually use Windows 8 responding to the ongoing diatribe about how terrible Windows 8 is and how Microsoft missed the boat. I have used, in a production environment, Windows 8 since it was first released to the developer community. The early days were challenging and the "Metro" interface was fraught with hiccups, but, the full release last November has been a joy to work with. I find my productivity has risen two to three fold. Incidentally, I do not have a touch screen and I use the Start Screen all the time. I often wonder why people complain about the lack of a Start Button. There it is in two locations on the keyboard. The number of other shortcuts that Microsoft has provided us with is significant and, although I do not use them all, the ones I use regularly have made my life a whole lot easier.Thank you sbacerra456, AustinIT and Somedude8 for a little balance.
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5/9/2013 | 7:14:56 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
Half of corporate users are still migrating to Windows 7 - and what do they see when they click to add a desktop gadget from the internet? A message from Microsoft declaring gadgets discontinued. Imagine how frustrating that is to people.
They need to: A) let Windows be configured to run in full blown desktop mode by booting into it and having the start menu back; B) bring back support for sidebar gadgets - AT LEAST put the links back on their web site to the legacy stuff if they don't want to develop new ones although they should at least continue to support the Office/Lync/Outlook related gadgets; C) give us Aero mode back. Aero mode hasn't been around long enough for it to go out of style - the new flat look is too much like XP which is what most people are coming from.
That said, I think they got it right with the Modern UI for use on phones, tablets and touch screens. The keyboard/mouse is still a productive way to work, though, and, in many situation superior to touch. It needs to be accomodated better than in Win8.
AustinIT
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5/9/2013 | 7:05:44 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
The Start button and menu are making a return in Blue. That along with the ability to boot / login straight to the traditional desktop (which btw is Win7 improved). This info has already been confirmed.
AustinIT
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5/9/2013 | 7:02:47 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
You can still buy Win7. Heck, you can still get WinXP if you want it.

Microsoft has always been very conscious of backward compatibility. Both hardware and software. They have to because of the huge investment made by businesses in the ecosystem. Speaking of ecosystems, Microsoft is playing in a wide open field (as opposed to Apple) that allows many companies to develop and compete. It's one of those situations that is good new bad news. The good news is that it fosters innovation via third parties. The bad news is that MS usually gets the blame when some third parties develop crappy products. This open ecosystem is also an albatrose that slows down the pace of innovation on the OS platform - which is why we have seen such long runs between new OS releases. This is finally beginning to change with Win8.

Finally, all of their OS's support the x86 and x64 chipsets. And, now, the ARM chipset with Win8RT. So, no, Microsoft is not becoming Apple in that respect.
jries921
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5/9/2013 | 6:43:56 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
We do appear to have some serious denial here (as with Vista). It's clear that there are lots of Windows users that are unhappy with what MS has put out, and MS has to listen to them if it wants to keep them. There are viable alternatives to Windows that lots of people know about and like (unlike in the 1990s), so it behooves MS to act accordingly.

MS probably doesn't need to listen to "ABMers" like me, but they really should listen to their users.
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5/9/2013 | 6:40:24 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
Win 8 appears to have been made for the masses that consume data. It works for that. But what about those of us who create content? It just isn't efficient. Another person commented on problems using multiple monitors - that's a problem! Win 8 is a great OS - underneath the UI - so simply create 2 UI's - one for touch devices and one for mouse/keyboard input. Yes, it will reduce some traffic to the online store, but leaving it like it is now will reduce bottom line profits for MS much more.
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5/9/2013 | 6:26:00 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
Take away the possibility to use sensationalist speech from the journalists and bloggers and who would read their stuff. Got to play the game, drive interest to sell your product.
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5/9/2013 | 6:23:42 PM
re: Windows 8 Users See Red: Is Microsoft Listening?
There may be those who don't like Windows 8, but I am not one of them. MY hope is that Microsoft doesn't change too much of Windows 8 in Windows Blue. I do think, however, that, for traditionalists, it would be helpful for them to do one major thing: place a start button on the Desktop. It's not necessary on Metro. Yeah, there are still a few other tweaks that I would like to see (such as using the snipping tool in Metro), but they are relatively minor in the grand scheme of things. Maybe Microsoft should support Windows 7 AND 8 (and the upcoming "Blue"), so that people can choose and use the OS that works best for them. By the way... My laptop is not a touch screen, but I can do all the same gestures on my enlarged touchpad, and I LOVE that! Who wants sore arms reaching out to touch their laptop screen all day, anyway?
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