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moarsauce123
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6/29/2013 | 4:53:38 PM
re: Microsoft Understands Its Windows 8 Mistakes, Finally
If Microsoft would have gotten what users want then they would have put the start menu back in place. Now Win8 users still have to deal with the dysfunctional Metro UI that know nothing about hierarchical orders. It is all plastered on one plane like a barfed up FisherPrice toy. Users could have lived without that dumb button if the start menu was back in...although these charms never show up when you need them or when they show up you don't need them...or they show the gigantic clock covering the exact spot you need to look at.
The UI was the least of the problems with Windows. Windows users would have gained more from better hardware support, the big knob to the system, lower license fees, and several other enhancements that carry true value.
anon1173262795
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6/29/2013 | 3:07:41 PM
re: Microsoft Understands Its Windows 8 Mistakes, Finally
Stevieboy, the message, in coffee terms, was not "refine the blend."

The message was "we've put up with it over the years that you've unnecessarily changed the flavor of every release so we have to acclimate, but this time you handed us a coffee cup with strained celery juice, and we were at least still expecting coffee."

That was the message.
UberGoober
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6/28/2013 | 3:15:48 PM
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Win8 was Micro$oft's way of telling the world that selling more phones and tablets was more important than keeping their desktop users happy. Win8.1 is their way of telling us that they think we're stupid enough to fall for a head fake, or beaten down enough to be happy to get crumbs.

Not gonna do it....
Laurianne
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6/27/2013 | 8:37:21 PM
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The Microsoft of old would not have used the "refine the coffee blend" metaphor. Of course, you could argue the Windows 8 protests became so loud that they had no choice.

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Francoman
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6/27/2013 | 6:39:55 PM
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Mike: This is not directly related to Win8, but I wish Microsoft would support Silverlight on mobile platforms other than Windows, like Android and put pressure on Apple to accept a Silverlight strategy. We embraced Silverlight, and then Microsoft buckled under HTML5 pressure from Steve Jobs. Silverlight could have been the "Cadillac" of web-based mobile applications and still could be given the power of late model phones. Someday, HTML5 may be everything it promised, but that day is still pretty far out. However, I do not believe HTML5 will ever deliver the quality look, feel, content security and adaptive streaming capabilities of Silverlight. If Microsoft is into second looks, it should also consider Silverlight.
Tronist
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6/27/2013 | 5:55:21 PM
re: Microsoft Understands Its Windows 8 Mistakes, Finally
W8.1 is free to the W8 suckers? So going from shitty to crappy for free is a step in the right direction, I guess.
ANON1242905689517
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6/27/2013 | 5:50:55 PM
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As my company has been Microsoft Partner of 10 years, I am now very concerned about Microsoft. Microsoft always had a problem of execution (DOS to 3.1, Millennium, Tablet OS, Vista) but the technology was always worth the aggravation. Well Windows 8 has been poorly executed AND the technology as gone backward - ie. touch (analog) is not better than a digitizer properly executed. And the wireless settings in 8, as pointed out, are bizarre as are dozens of other things like the Start button/screen.

Ballmer needs to step down - maybe this deal with Oracle is really to get Ellison in the chair - couldn't be any worse.

As a programming house - Windows 8 or 8.1 is totally screwed - it is going to take a whole new approach and at least a year to fix it.
DAVIDINIL
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6/27/2013 | 5:50:09 PM
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I am shocked that Lord Ballmer didn't tell everyone that ...."Ah you sillly users. Clearly you are just too set in your ways and too resistant to change to fully appreciate the genious of Microsoft".
I still wish there was a way to replace the Win8 that came on my laptop with Win7. Yes, I can finally find where most things are on Win8, but it is so inferior to Win7 in almost every single thing i do on the machine.
Mark532010
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6/27/2013 | 5:20:43 PM
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It is a real start button but it doesn't bring up the start "menu" it is only a new way to get to the start "screen" - which has been the primary complaint all along for many desktop users - that the efficient "menu" is gone.

Despite the hoopla, Microsoft is basically ignoring the complaints of desktop users in this release. Their position is that the Metro/Modern environment isn't complete enough and you still have to go to the desktop to do things - so they are fixing that "inefficiency" by adding lots of control-panel items to Metro/modern.

yes you can boot directly to desktop, but you still have to use the start screen, you still have to use charms, you still don't get any visual styles or ability to change anything on the desktop. Remember when you could change the number of letters the text under an icon would show? and that ability was removed why?

So far I haven't seen much in 8.1 that gives unhappy desktop users anything to cheer about.
Mordock
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6/27/2013 | 5:07:08 PM
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But is it a REAL Start button???
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