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Microsoft Understands Its Windows 8 Mistakes, Finally
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anon7051416397
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7/24/2013 | 12:16:01 PM
re: Microsoft Understands Its Windows 8 Mistakes, Finally
Not sure if microsoft understood the mistakes or we can say heard us. as Start button is pretty much useless, i see people already looking for a way to revert back to the old windows 8 style where they were atleast able to install third party tools. Boot to desktop is also goofy. Silly part is microsoft allows us to use desktop wallpaper as start menu background, thinking that we would think we are still on desktop :-P

this is how windows 8 can be improved

http://tools.atechmate.com/200...
sjacks982
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7/2/2013 | 2:06:09 AM
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Steve "Pepsi Salesman" Ballmer thinks more people will buy the "New Coke" if Microsoft just changes the color of the can. Unfortunately, I don't want to drink the "Cherry Kool-Ade".
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7/2/2013 | 2:00:32 AM
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Well the good news is Windows 8 is helping the sales of Chrome OS laptops.
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7/2/2013 | 1:39:11 AM
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Did you like Vista (codebase 6.0)? Well Win8 is still codebase NT6.2 (System bug KB articles with "to be fixed in 6.0" still aren't fixed in Win8). They can call it "Windows 9" but I will wait for codebase 7.0.
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7/2/2013 | 1:33:13 AM
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Ummm. HTML5 was written by Opera, not Apple. Silverlight is a Flash alternative, better than Flash but still equivalent to HTML5+javascript (or rather ecmascript per MS). Apple fought off Flash (they have Cocoa) and Android uses Java Micro Edition clone for display and animation (in user mode; MS made Silverlight like Flash: requires System permissions). Besides, .Net is what killed off Silverlight internally.
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7/1/2013 | 8:34:20 PM
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I just counted 68 folders on my Start menu and most of them have sub-folders. Easily over 500 menu items. Now Mr. Balmer, just how is Metro supposed to handle all of that?? Just look at the ugliness that is created when you just install Office on Metro. It is major mess. How can anyone call that reasonable, let alone usable.
Quite frankly, Win 8/8.1 is absolutely unusable without a 3rd party Start menu tool.
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7/1/2013 | 6:12:38 PM
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The Start BUTTON was not what users wanted! What Microsoft put back was a button to the ugly Metro screen.
The Start MENU is what users wanted, plain and simple. The Start Menu was a hierarchically organized interface to programs in alphabetical order, something like having your books neatly organized on the shelf.
No, says Microsoft. We know better! The new way is to take your books out of the shelf and lay them out flat on the floor in no particular order.
And the Start Button replacement in Windows 8.1 doesn't replace that functionality.
Why, oh why doesn't Microsoft simply add a Desktop Mode with Start Menu option that end users can choose or not based on their desires? Does Microsoft want customers or hostages?

All that said, I've been using Windows 8 for six months in desktop mode very nicely thanks to an Open Source start menu replacement. There are several replacements from Open Source and Proprietary developers, but why does Microsoft stubbornly insist on forcing users to third party providers to get the very simple solution that makes Windows 8 workable on the desktop?

What is the business motivation behind trying to force users to the ugly Metro desktop? What innovative goal is advanced by keeping users from using a start menu? Or is it Redmond's same old hegemonic aspirations at work again?
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7/1/2013 | 5:24:17 PM
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Stardock definitely gets it - and did so very shortly after Windows 8 was released. They should be selling as many copies of Start 8 as there are installations of that OS.
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6/30/2013 | 4:21:02 AM
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They'd better work on another version soon. Maybe Windows 9 by August, but this time, really listening to what customers are saying. A beautiful Start page does not survive for very long.
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6/30/2013 | 4:18:54 AM
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Windows 8.1 Release is a joke, a slap on the face of the consumer. The start button is good for nothing since it does not open an alphabetized list of programs, but the stupid cover-all metro screen. The local account is basically disabled, since you need to be on an online MS login to use those stupid apps; If you are on the subway and want to read the NYTimes and later type a report, you need to log off and log in to another account. The Windows 7 backup utility was substituted for a file backup utility, which makes it impossible to restore the whole system in a more effective way. Anyway, there are a couple of improvements, but the stupid apps still take over the whole screen, and you cannot treat them as independent, movable, minimizeable windows. To do so, you need a third-party software called ModernMix by Stardock. IOBit makes a great Start Menu (a real one). Summarizing, Windows 8 is doomed, and MS is the only guilty party here.
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