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Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
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TerryB
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TerryB,
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7/18/2013 | 5:11:03 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
Not sure I get the Access problem. We have business unit with apps running in Access 2000 but we still moved machines to Win 7 recently. We even upgraded Excel, Word and Powerpoint to Office 2010, just left Access 2000 in place. It works fine.
That said, I'm in the camp that says change o/s when you need to, not because MS needs revenue from new o/s every couple of years.
Mark532010
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7/18/2013 | 5:40:29 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
Moving off XP can be expensive. In our case, Dell does not support 7 (or 8) on our hw, forcing a difficult decision -
1) stay on xp - HW/Drivers supported by Dell, OS not supported by MS
2) Upgrade to 7/8 - HW/Drivers probably will work but are NOT supported by Dell, OS supported by MS
3) Replace all computers/OS - supported by everyone but the finance dept.
sholden334
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7/18/2013 | 5:42:18 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
When I got my new Windows 7 PC, I loaded Parallels and transferred my whole XP work environment to a virtual machine. I find Access 2000 and Borland's C++ very productive, Excel 2010 handles bigger spreadsheets and XP is rock solid. Why should I change?
cyannella
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cyannella,
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7/18/2013 | 6:15:06 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
Netbeui @ Older CNC Machines not supported with the newer OS. Sorry M$... Will still need XP well beyond the exp. date. Can't force businesses to update equipment just becasue you set a date on your OS support.
Roy Atkinson
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7/18/2013 | 6:24:51 PM
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Yes, applications complicate the task of moving off XP, but not all of those applications are "legacy." Hypothetical: If I am an application developer at a large, say, healthcare institution and 80% of the PC's there are running XP, when we institute electronic medical records (EMR) software, what OS am I developing and testing for? XP of course. The project managers and hospital administration are likely pressuring me to complete the EMR rollout, so I cannot stop now and then begin developing and testing for Windows 7 or 8, as much as the desktop support folks would like me to. So, now we have a larger problem. I can't test for Win7 because I'm on a deadline, but I can't stay on XP because *it's* on a deadline. My speed is holding up deployment of new equipment and OS.

Many desktop support groups I talk to are losing sleep because they are stuck in this situation. They know exactly how vulnerable XP will be once the patching stops, and they'd love to get a new OS rolled out, but they can't.
GaryHMa
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7/18/2013 | 8:16:27 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
I am under the impression that one cannot jump from XP to 8. Can someone comment on this?
SMB Kevin
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7/18/2013 | 9:05:37 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
Roy, thanks for the scenario. I think some version of it occurs regularly in organizations with finite resources -- which is most of them. And I agree, so-called legacy applications are only part of the compatibility picture.

-Kevin Casey
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Francoman,
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7/18/2013 | 9:45:35 PM
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Microsoft should resist efforts to cut off XP users from support. It will surely backfire and Microsoft leaders will again have egg on their faces. Instead they should use incentives to lead XP users to the embrace Microsoft and partner web applications and even upgrade the OS. I am sure these are budget conscience people. This is not a time for Microsoft to be mean-spirited by axing customers. Instead work with your partners to create hardware and OS incentives to drive sales among this group of users. Listen to and understand your customers, because 40% of a billion desktops is HUGE number of people. If Ballmer cuts of 40% of his customer base, then her deserves to go.
SMB Kevin
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SMB Kevin,
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7/18/2013 | 10:32:06 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
Gary,

I'm assuming you're talking about upgrading from XP to 8 on the same hardware? If so, it's possible -- but most of the people I've asked about it don't necessarily recommend it. (I'm also sure there are plenty of InformationWeek readers who can offer sharper opinions on this, so hopefully they'll chime in.) One reason is that if you're running XP there's a good chance the hardware is at least several years old, and more likely 5+ years old, like the ancient XP desktop still cranking along in my office. Even if it meets the minimum requirements to run Windows 8, it probably won't deliver an optimal experience. Another reason is touch: Windows 8's UI was developed with touch in mind, even though it can be used without a touchscreen. Just my own viewpoint, but I don't see the value in running Windows 8 on a non-touch device. I'd rather have Windows 7 in that case.

That's one of the XP hang-ups for some businesses -- an XP upgrade means a hardware upgrade, too, and that can get expensive in a hurry. As Mark532010 noted above, that's often a deal-breaker for the folks that control the corporate purse strings, especially if the existing hardware/software still gets the job done.

-Kevin Casey
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7/18/2013 | 10:54:10 PM
re: Microsoft's XP Eulogy: Not Everyone's Listening
And this is why those old traditional mainframe OS's are still around. They support application portability that PC oriented OS's like Windows, Unix, and Linux don't.
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