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Google Nexus 7 Vs. iPad Mini: 6 Key Factors
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kmages570
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7/27/2013 | 2:33:49 PM
re: Google Nexus 7 Vs. iPad Mini: 6 Key Factors
7. It has NFC
Juno.az
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7/28/2013 | 12:26:57 AM
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NFC, the greatest technology nobody uses.
chorlacher175
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7/29/2013 | 5:22:01 PM
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It's more like the greatest technology that's known the least about. Most people don't realize that they can use NFC for simple transfers of URLs, contacts, maps, photos, and video. Some of that is not even Android specific...you can send/receive URLs and contacts, possibly more, with WinPhone 8 devices that have NFC! It's quick and easy!
Juno.az
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7/27/2013 | 3:22:23 PM
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"Google Play offers a better purchase experience than Apple's iTunes Store"

Seriously? No mention of the malware infested apps?

Thomas Claburn, shame on you for taking Google's money to write this misleading trash. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't even write it. Google probably just sent you the copy for you to cut and paste.

Informationweek, I'm sure you can do better.
Thomas Claburn
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7/29/2013 | 4:58:18 PM
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Note that I was addressing the Web-based purchase experience, not the app quality. There are a lot of apps. I'm sure there are more bad apps for Android than for iOS. That doesn't make the Nexus 7 a bad choice.
chorlacher175
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7/29/2013 | 5:25:05 PM
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People who talk about malware on Android don't know what their talking about. The Google Play store is a great and safe place to buy apps. You can also use the Amazon App Store if you want. There are hundreds of illegal or shady app stores out there, most hosted in Russia and China from what I hear. Those are not the Google Play store and I wouldn't get anything from any of those stores. Google Play is definitely much more advanced than iTunes.
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8/1/2013 | 7:45:42 PM
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If your going to make comments about an article, then you should be mature and professional about it as this isn't a yahoo article for people to troll. Accusing someone of writing a biased article is your opinion and should be kept to yourself.
Who is to say your not biased in your response accusing Thomas of being biased?
BradM799
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7/27/2013 | 3:41:12 PM
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"More or less than same sensors"?

WTF????

The Nexus-7 has a GPS in it. This is a huge difference between the iPad Mini @ $329 vs. Nexus-7

At a coffee shop and you discover a used bookstore across town? Viola! Turn by turn voice navigation will get you there on the Nexus-7 (yes, Google will cache the maps so you don't need 3G or 4G connectivity).

There are so many purposes for the GPS that make the Nexus-7 the clear, and undisputed, when you put the side-by-side up.

Don't gloss over the GPS by saying "more or less the same sensors". It makes you look like an Apple stooge.
pwclimber
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7/27/2013 | 8:09:32 PM
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I was about to say the same. The reason I got the original N7 instead of an iPad Mini was the GPS and downloadable (offline) maps. That means when I'm out hiking or driving in the middle of nowhere where there is no cell reception, the N7 tells me exactly where I am, provided I think ahead and download the map.

The absence of any mention of GPS and downloadable maps is a common, glaring error in so many N7 reviews.
ChrisMurphy
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8/7/2013 | 6:25:36 PM
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This is good insight -- i'm right on the cusp of buying one of these two, this downloadable map feature's pretty powerful for a guy who can get lost in the driveway.
Thomas Claburn
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7/29/2013 | 4:50:59 PM
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Good point, only the cellular-enabled version of the Mini has a GPS chip.
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7/27/2013 | 5:17:03 PM
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Before you buy a Google Nexus 7.2,You should see the first video The following Google Nexus 7.2 review.Here will be

tested for greatness and abilities possessed of this tablet

>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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7/27/2013 | 8:46:11 PM
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I have the original 7, nothing worth moving to the new 7. sill when you compare it to the ipad mini, nexus still doesn't have a chance. the games are better with way more choice for ios then android, and the same games for android that are on ios underperform on android. bundle in all the viruses that come with android, and how easy it is to write a program to share all your information.... that keeps me from making any android device my main device. ill say android hardware is freggin awesome... to bad not so much on the software side... i've been hoping since my first android device back in 2009 that they would make the software better. now as a developer I understand why there aren't great apps on android, the user base generally wont buy apps anywhere near as much ios users, and are even less likely to click on ads then ios users also. its not uncommon for ios developers to make a few grand a month from sales, and maybe 100 bucks if there lucky in the first month of there android release. and tanks further from there... I think this will be the biggest reason android will never compete with ios.... that and all the insecure easily hacked os that is android.... if they ever fix that huge gaping whole in security, perhaps that would jump start people moving to android. cause the hardware is awesome in the higher end devices.
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7/27/2013 | 10:06:19 PM
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Data already shows that Android phones outsell IOS phones. Android tablets are trending to take the #1 spot from Apple. Viruses on Android devices have already been addressed. Google has implemented security checks in the Play Store. In a similar case, people have made the same argument about viruses, etc. on Windows yet it still dominates the Mac OS. Unless the person was foolish enough to download shady apps on their Android device, there was no reason for concern. Users that "follow the crowd" will make the move from IOS to Android. Some of these users will be those who are likely to buy apps or click on sponsors. Many apps on IOS are or soon will be on the Android OS since it generates additional revenue (Why sell to only half the crowd? Business 101). And lastly, Java is becoming an extremely popular language and will lure developers to Android. It can be used more broadly than IOS's Objective-C. So despite this security hole you mentioned, Android's growth has been strong in both cell phones and tablets.

BTW, IOS has had its fair share of problems too such as the pass code override.
Juno.az
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7/28/2013 | 12:35:52 AM
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Who cares if Android outsells iOS. More people buy hamburger than steak. I prefer steak. More people buy Chevrolet than Mercedes. I think you get my point.
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7/28/2013 | 2:07:32 AM
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DionG189 was talking specifically about how to get people moving to Android. In the context of this thread, Android outselling iOS is highly relevant.

I also dispute your contention that iOS is somehow higher quality than Android. There's no way you can make such a blanket statement. It all depends on your needs and priorities, which are not going to be the same as everyone else's. If you're even slightly interested in having any control over your own device, Android is the only game in town. Even something as dead simple as uploading music is completely impossible on iOS without iTunes, whereas Android supports dozens of different music manager programs. That's just one example out of many.
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8/1/2013 | 7:50:17 PM
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I think you should stop responding Juno, because all your responses are irrelevant and lack any real insight (let alone a point). Most of us like to use this to talk about the actual article and not throw crap at people like monkeys.
Michael Endler
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7/28/2013 | 1:38:27 AM
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I think its notable that many important measures of Android success haven't kept pace with the platform's market share. In terms of Web usage and advertising revenue, iOS is still ahead by a pretty wide margin. And most developer surveys I've seen still rank iOS as the most profitable platform. When it comes to the value of an ecosystem, market share is a good indicator-- but these others, in which Apple still has the lead, are important too. Android undercuts Apple's pricing, which leads to higher adoption-- but a lot of what makes an ecosystem derives from what users do after that. All that said, the Nexus looks like the best value among mini-tablets, as I noted in an article earlier this week.
HaroldCallahan
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7/28/2013 | 2:10:42 AM
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The thing is, I'm just a regular user. I'm not a developer. I'm not an advertiser. I actually rather hate advertising. The fact that Android trails in advertising revenue is a huge plus, not a minus, in my book. It means less money is being leeched out of my pocket by corrupt media companies. Similarly, less money for developers means more money in consumers' pockets. Where do you think developers earn their money from?
Michael Endler
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7/28/2013 | 4:16:29 AM
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Some people really love their Android devices. Far be it from me to tell them not to. Some of the tablets are great, and it looks like the new Nexus 7 could join that group. And Android's market share clearly shows the platform's popularity among consumers, OEMs and developers.

But here's the subtext of the advertising and web usage numbers: Android users might like their devices but iOS users REALLY like their devices.

That is, iOS users, or so the stats imply, use their devices more often, which means they look at more ads, and create more ad revenue. I don't think iOS is overrun by ads; rather, the volume of Web and app traffic creates a large volume of advertising opportunities. If Android's actual user engagement were equal to its market share, why would it trail Apple in these key figures? That's basically the question these statistics pose.

Your point about money in consumers' pockets has merit-- but I'm not sure I agree about the developers part. Developers sometimes prioritize the largest number of users (i.e. Android)-- but ultimately, most of them want the largest number of paying users. If Apple users are using their devices more, they're also using and buying more apps, and probably generating more online commerce in general-- or so the statistics I mentioned imply. Moreover, Apple generally performs better among more affluent consumers--e.g. people with more money to spend on apps, accessories, etc. These stat about affluence come from Forrester, if I remember right. The Web usage stuff was most recently touted by Piper Jaffray, but others have come to similar conclusions. And the advertising stats are from Mediaworks.

Anyhow, if developers go where the paying users are, these stats suggest developers are heading toward Apple.

That's not to say that Apple is perfect. They wouldn't be allegedly getting ready to launch a cheaper iPhone if they were impervious to market pressures. And I think some of the developers have a point when they say Apple could open things up a bit. I'm just saying that Android's alleged domination of mobile devices isn't anywhere near as absolute as its market share suggests.

Here's what I will be interested to see: once all the new Android and Windows 8 mini-tablets have been out for a few months, will the iPad Mini maintain a usage advantage? WIll it be similar to the regular iPad? The tablet market gets more fragmented all the time, and there might be room for different OS hierarchies within different form factors.
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7/28/2013 | 2:29:49 PM
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The web usage disparity goes away if you exclude wifi-only devices (source: http://www.technology-digital..... It makes sense that wifi-only devices see disproportionate amounts of raw usage, since they typically aren't on a limited data plan. The iPad is of course dominant in this area. I have one and it's a great web browser. The original Nexus 7 is too slow and does not deliver a good experience. It will be interesting to see how the new one fares.

There are other, lesser factors working around the margins. For example, ad blocking is much easier to do on Android than on iOS (sideloading vs. jailbreaking).

Apple for sure performs better among affluent customers. This isn't even a mystery -- for those of limited means, Apple is too expensive to be an option. But it's quite a leap to conclude that Apple is therefore the better option just because it costs more.

I understand that many developers follow the money, but I am not convinced that I, as a user, benefit from favoring software written by greedy developers. As a long-time open-source advocate (for reasons of quality, not cost), I have seen many examples where the free software is superior to its paying counterpart. I have also seen the reverse many times, so I am not one-sided in this matter. You seem to assume that the revenue-maximizing strategy is preferable in all situations. Many developers do prefer more money for sure, but these developers do not always write the highest-quality software. Examples such as ConnectBot or K-9 Mail show that free programs on Android can sometimes far exceed any of their counterparts, paid or free, on iOS.

Android itself is open-source, and the whole rationale for open source is that free software is a superior product to proprietary software. It is not surprising to see this legacy reflected in the behavior of the user base, and this fact says nothing about the quality of free software vs. paid software. Users care about functionality and long-term viability, not revenue streams. Linux and other projects have demonstrated that an active developer community can be sustained with no direct revenue. It is actually rather refreshing to see a commercial platform like Android following this path rather than the traditional path based on corporate revenue.
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8/1/2013 | 1:11:57 AM
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iOS users are simply people with too much money to burn. Is there any apps which human beings cannot live without? None. Other than certain apps which iOS users may claim that they cannot live without, many Android (particularly Nexus 7 & II) can do the others better (web surfing, movie streaming, GPS) and at a much lower cost. In fact, even those apps which iOS users cannot live without, these users could be ignorant of the existence of the equivalent Android apps! In all, many iOS users simply purchase iPad mini for the name sake or for the perception.

In this era of consuming, many purchases are not based on factual and the old saying of "value for money". Many people simply have too much money to throw away!
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8/1/2013 | 7:56:09 PM
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As a user of both IOS and Android i can say that they obviously have strengths and weaknesses. I find IOS to be safe and simple, but yet i get frustrated when i want to do certain things that i cannot do on IOS. The whole malware issue on Android is the result of people not being a critical thinker (which in that regard tends to make IOS better as Apple likes to hold your hand).

Android has more overall potential than IOS, but with that said IOS is more simplistic. When i am asked to help a friend or coworker pick something out i tend to utilize their personality as a metric on choosing IOS or Android.

Arguing that IOS sucks or Android sucks is just sweeping generalizations and lack true insight to each of the Operating Systems.

Compare and Contrast comes to mind when talking about which is better and you'll find they both come out as a good choice depending on the consumer.
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8/14/2013 | 4:18:05 PM
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Slightly behind (I just discovered this thread) but I wanted to mention that my mother was given a Nexus 7 for Christmas and has given up on it. She finds it so confusing to do anything in the OS. Dragging a program to the trashcan never works (it just turns red and doesn't go away), downloading apps don't appear on the normal screens but only on the "everything" screen and dragging them to the normal screens is an exercise in frustration - I have watched her try 10 times in a row to drag an icon between screens only to have it not happen. She manages to turn off the wifi all the time (it is quite easy to do) and then has no clue what to do or why everything fails in strange ways. etc.
Android may be awesome for the young tech-savvy crowd but it is woefully inadequate for people who don't instinctively know how to do things. It didn't even come with a guide, no explanation of what the icons on the bottom meant, nothing. I literally had to google to find out how to delete something. I finally got her an ipad and she is a lot happier (she still has trouble but not nearly so much, it is quite a bit more intuitive)


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