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Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
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sjacks982
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sjacks982,
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8/5/2013 | 11:11:00 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
Teens and small children love the interface. Windows 8 may be a number one if Microsoft manages to survive another twenty years. Like Apple: didn't the Apple Newton come out twenty years ago?
Shane M. O'Neill
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8/5/2013 | 3:25:08 PM
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Asok, thanks for your comments. You're definitely right that there's no longer time these days for a second act if a new tech product fails to catch on. As bad as it was, Vista had the time to redeem itself with service packs. In Vista's day there was no iOS, no Android, and no BYOD to curb adoption and no Facebook and Twitter to spread negative word like wildfire. Windows 8 obviously will not have such luxury.
Shane M. O'Neill
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8/5/2013 | 3:00:05 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
I guess we don't know with certainty who said the line. But Einstein is widely credited as the source. Regardless, it was the idea behind the quote that interested me most: how it's dangerous (and possibly insane) to keep pressing on with a failed strategy and expect success. Thought it applied to Windows 8 in this case.
Laurianne
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8/5/2013 | 2:59:32 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
Indeed, there is online debate about this quote, which has been attributed to Einstein, Franklin and Twain. Apologies for any confusion. Thanks to all of you for the engaging discussion on the Microsoft issues.
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8/5/2013 | 7:25:40 AM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
Not all quotes you can find on the Internet are true - Abraham Lincoln
Palpatine
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8/5/2013 | 7:22:52 AM
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Palpatine
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8/5/2013 | 7:15:33 AM
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They need to understand that Metro is just a launcher, it CANNOT replace the desktop and MUST not treat Win32 multibillions$ ecosystem with its castrated Gadget-like API - or make all users and developer flee from MS disaster as fast as they can, as it is happening since last year.
That because Andoid/iOS were palatable for developers and partners, notwithstanding the Store limitation (single distributor is a BIG menace for developers! just think about you are plainly doing market research for Google or Apple: if your software myFoo is going being successful on the store, just pray they have no spare personnel to take over with iFoo and FooPlay on THEIR stores!), because of the explosive growth - that MS missed blatantly.
MS was palatable being a business friendly ecosystem, but losing this advantage for a store-based model is like losing the last reason for being keept alive by developers.
They must treat Metro/RT like a nice Gadget improvement, something optional that MAY be preconfigured as autolaunched on phones, but MUST sit down in silence and shame, unless run by the user, on any other machine type, like OSX Launcher does - without hurting OSX market and reputation!

Single codebase, ability to start a Store for casual games and Gadgets on steroid, ability of an optional "notification" based screen, and what's more important, you are not going to kill your company!
Better than the original plan.

Now Ballmer please give me some of the billions$ you are going to save for this free hint.
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8/5/2013 | 12:08:46 AM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
I see several huge issues working against Windows 8:

1) Metro isn't why Metro is failing. It's
crappy apps. I've used a lot of Metro apps and invariably I get stuck and
I don't know what to do next. After I look at the screen for a while with
a confused look, I finally right click or move the mouse to make the charms bar
appear. Ah ... now something happens. While this may be Microsoft's
ideal approach to get a "full screen" experience, who in the heck
thinks this is a way to design a UI? Imagine if a bank ATM or an airport
kiosk designed with this approach? To hell with Microsof's specs.
Put some damn buttons on these apps that make it obvious how I'm supposed to
interact with them!

2) Fresh from a visit to the local MicroCenter this
week: Plenty of touch screen Windows 8 ultimate laptops. These
things really look nice. However, after trying a few, they suck because
of poor merchandising and poor hardware quality.

I spent some time with a super thin, extremely
handsome unit priced around $1,000. The touch screen was squishy (!) and
half the time when I tapped it, there was no response. When I tried to
swipe into the screen from various directions, it worked half the time.
For $1,000, I expect a lot more. IMO, it's a POS.

The second one I tried was really cool. It had two screens.
One when you opened the laptop clam shell and a second on the back of
the clam shell. It was a true convertible. Also priced north of
$1,000, it didn't work! I could swipe into the screen and bring up the
task switcher and charms but I couldn't do anything else with it (I couldn't
scroll the metro screen.) It obviously was corrupted or had some other
problem but it's out on display and it should work.

I have a poor impression of both Windows and these
devices.

3) None of the laptops I tried had Internet connectivity. This speaks volumes about extremely incompetent merchandising and represents a huge problem for selling these devices. Who would spend $1,000+ on one of these new laptops/tablets or
"convertibles" without an Internet-attached test drive?!?

4) Crapware is still a huge problem. While playing with
a nice laptop, there was an Amazon applet that kept popping up when I went to
switch tasks. I could not close it and it was unresponsive. I
believe this was due to no Internet connection but nevertheless, my test drive
experience was poor because this app invariable kept popping into view.
AsokAsus
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8/4/2013 | 1:35:23 AM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
The slow-motion train wreck that is Windows 8/Windows RT/Metro UI/Surface/Apps Store is exactly what tens of thousands of we advanced testers told Microsoft was going to happen nearly two years ago when we saw Windows 8 and Metro UI for the first time. Microsoft failed to listen then and they changed nothing then. We can now expect the slow-motion train wreck to continue until the bitter end when all of the Microsoft Windows 8 ecosystem boxcars have completely crashed to the bottom of the gorge.

The primary reason to expect the train wreck to continue is that Surface, Windows RT, Windows 8.x, Metro UI and Microsoft Apps Store have almost completely failed in the marketplace and there is no longer the possibility of resurrecting failed products in today's technological milieu. Social media and internet resources rein supreme now, phenomena that did not fully exist during Microsoft's last disaster, namely Vista.

All is different now. Word of failure now spreads through the population at the speed of light, and the net is cast large. Very few haven't now heard of the horribleness of Windows 8, Metro UI and the various Surfaces. Because there are no longer second chances for failed products in this new world, Microsoft can no longer expect to release 1/4 baked products on an unsuspecting world and then expect to make them work half-way decent a couple of years later via SP1, SP2 or SP3.

Microsoft is truly beating a dead horse with the Windows 8 ecosystem. Continuing with any of these brands would be as if Coke had stuck with New Coke, issuing New New Coke, now in small cans, or Ford released the new Edsel Sportster to repair the Edsel brand image.

Even worse, though, is that while Microsoft has been busily proving that they don't have a snowball's chance in Hades of becoming a meaningful player in the consumer mobile market, they've simultaneously alienated their bread and butter enterprise and SMB customers by trying to foist a cell-phone interface on industrial servers and business PCs, all the while trying to foist the insane notion that touch on the PC is the wave of the future.

Touch on a PC is about as useful as teats on a boar hog. Actually, less useful. Does Microsoft really expect 100 million CAD/CAM designers, accountants, and other industrial content makers to hold their arms up horizontally all day inaccurately poking smudges on their 42" monitors with their fat fingers, working at 1/100th the speed as before Windows 8 with 1000 times the physical effort, in the mean time destroying their neck and shoulder girdle?

Touch is an extremely low bandwidth input method with horrendous inaccuracy and extremely harmful ergonomics when compared to a keyboard and mouse. Touch might be OK for looking up the latest cat video, or tweeting, texting, or talking, but that's about it, and if that's all anyone is doing, then some kind of $300.00 slab might be just fine, and you don't need a Windows OS for that, with all of its horrendously awful failure modes, bloat, brittleness, weekly updates and viruses that the consumer public has been wresting unsuccessfully with for decades.

Unfortunately for Microsoft, they have no Plan B to solve the above mess, and their only strategy is to rearrange deckchairs as they watch the SS Microsoft Titanic sink beneath the waves caused when Captain Ballmer rammed them into the big iceberg.

Bottom line is that by the time Gates and the Board flush Ballmer, Microsoft will have been irrevocably damaged, and will most likely follow many other former mixed enterprise/consumer tech titans by being forced out of consumer markets altogether due to their complete ineptitude at true innovation, becoming just another large B2B company, providing mostly enterprise and SMB products.
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8/3/2013 | 9:23:51 PM
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People keep saying Balmer is bringing Microsoft down, but the financial numbers of his tenure say the opposite. Perception is not reality.
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