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What Steve Jobs Was, And Wasn't
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herman_munster
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herman_munster,
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3/8/2012 | 5:58:13 PM
re: What Steve Jobs Was, And Wasn't
Haha no, I've never been much of a fan of Jobs. I dont mean to suggest that I disliked him, only to suggest that he was a person of little consequence on my life (despite being a long term Apple user up until they released OS X).

Jobs was a great salesman, that's for sure.

Out of curiosity, any of you seen The Pirates of Silicon Valley?
JR Chat
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JR Chat,
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10/7/2011 | 8:37:55 PM
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I found the article interesting, but my question is: Did Howard know Jobs as an insider, or as an outsider looking in? What Jobs accomplished speaks for itself as an innovater and as a man!
TreeInMyCube
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TreeInMyCube,
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10/7/2011 | 7:02:19 PM
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I'd like more insight on "so early Apple products were weak where Jobs was weak." Are you thinking of the hard ceiling of 512KB RAM in the original Mac? Or something else?

Perhaps more importantly ... how did the brilliant people at Apple influence the *later* Apple products, so that they were less weak where Steve was weak? Everyone has weaknesses, after all, including Edison, Ford, Ben Franklin. How are the later products different from the early products?
ghelton950
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ghelton950,
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10/7/2011 | 5:54:14 PM
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A very accurate assessment of Steve Jobs. But I'd modify the assertion of "Jobs actually never believed in teams or groups or collaboration. " He valued his teams and put a lot of personal energy into building great ones. What Steve did NOT buy into was the notion that any team's consensus on matters of risk and taste was superior to his own gut instinct. Good thing his gut instincts were the best in the history of the tech business. Without him, Apple won't be nearly as successful. The teams he leaves behind are highly respectable, and there are many brilliant individuals still at Apple. But Steve's departure means there is no one to say, "I know I'm right and I'm making my decision, regardless of how many disagree with it." Steve was one of the tiny number of corporate leaders who ever deserved that perogative.
belenbaasr2n
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belenbaasr2n,
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10/7/2011 | 5:52:07 PM
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What made the Apple products IS sweating things like the screws inside the Mac. Kudos Steve for attention to details! Only a real product guy understands that.

Also, don't totally agree with the comment "Jobs actually never believed in teams or groups or collaboration." Steve believed in the brilliance that small, highly motivated teams could accomplish, provided with the right leadership (which was usually Steve himself). Gates called him a world-class motivator of people. You don't become that strictly out of fear or with an intrinsic disdain for working with (teams of) people. They may have been small teams (relatively speaking), but teams none-the-less. And he was brilliant at leading, motivating the product key teams he led.



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