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8 Reasons To Hate Windows 8.1
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mak63
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mak63,
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11/21/2013 | 7:55:50 PM
hate?
 I can accept that you may not like what the Apps View or the Side by Side Apps do or be a mad, frustrated, about the lack of features in the Mail App (for other account, but outlook), or the Bing search engine thing, nevertheless, hate? Isn't that going too far?
I believe I picked the worse problems, and I still don't see why the hate.
I think the worse thing is the price ($100-200). Other than that, these issues don't seem to a big of a deal.

People are not still holding grudges for what Microsoft did with Windows Me, are they?

Ah, I forgot. Windows 8-8.1 got rid of Windows DVD Maker and Media Center. Now I hate it. I really do.
EricD295
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EricD295,
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11/21/2013 | 4:11:38 PM
Re: Mobile and Desktop Hybrids
Hi, yes, you can use Windows 8, and any Windows, on a Mac using virtualization software, such as VMWare Fusion, Parallels, or Virtual Box. I personally prefer VMWare Fusion because it integrates perfectly with my Mac Keyboard. One issue is that the Mac Keyboard does not have the "insert" key, and so when I need that, I simply plug in a Windows USB keyboard, let it recognize it, push insert key, and remove keyboard, and get back to work.

I use Windows 8, and Windows 7 on my Mac through Fusion just for Windows development, such as with Visual Studio, Qt Creator, etc, and testing how web pages look on Internet Explorer, and other browsers on Windows. For that it is perfect. When I need to surf the internet, I only use browsers on my Mac, for security purposes. And there is no problem running different Mac amd Windows programs at the same time. You configure how much RAM you allot to the Windows VMs, and you can change that anytime -- just shut down the VM and go to its settings.

I also use VMWare Fusion for Linux development, and you can have any number of Virtual Machines on your computer, limited only by your disk space. The VMs appear as files on your hard disk that grow in size as your VM takes more disk space. You set the limit in the settings, and you can defrag and claim back diskspace for your Mac.

 
MacElsie
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MacElsie,
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11/21/2013 | 11:29:42 AM
8.1 should burn in hell
It made every single game I own laggy beyond all recognition. Aside from other issues I have with windows 8, i'm so tempted to go to 7... no XP--at least it is solid even after all these years.

 

Only good news is that there is a POTENTIAL fix to the game-lag induced by 8.1. Bad news is that i have to manually add each game. :(
remmeler
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remmeler,
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11/21/2013 | 8:52:27 AM
Re: I don't understand the hate
After using Win 8 and win 7 side by side for a year I would say slightly enhanced capabilities on the Win 8. 

I am not recommending someone upgrade a Win 7 but for XP and Vista it is a necessary upgrade and you take absoutely no hit whatsoever by having Metro there as a bonus that may be usefull in the future or for some people now.

I got it all for $39 with a free download of Media Center which all the haters missed out on.
moarsauce123
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moarsauce123,
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11/21/2013 | 8:40:03 AM
Re: I don't understand the hate
I agree that ClassicShell is an excellent tool. I also agree that performance of Win8 is better than Win7. But that is about the only benefit of Win8. Hardware support is drastically cut back in Win8, you have this useless Metro UI floating around, and after circumventing or fixing all the flaws of Win8 you end up with something that looks like Win7 with slightly crippled capabilities. And for that we should pay money?? I don't think so!

The market of Win7 licenses will be red hot for years to come.
remmeler
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remmeler,
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11/20/2013 | 10:17:37 PM
I don't understand the hate
The reason that people hate it is that it is not XP and it is not Windows 7, but it doesn't make sense.

I have a Windows 7 and 8 system side by side.  I boot to desktop and it looks identical to my Windows 7 and runs all my Win 7 and XP programs exactly the same on Win 8

When you change just a couple of defaults like changing to the included Windows Photo Viewer in Control Panel and using the Desktop I.E. and using the email from the Windows Essentials that used to be called Live Mail, then you will never see the Modern Front End (Metro or Start Screen) unless your press a key on your keyboard.

I run an older quad processor with half the memory on my upgrade to Windows 8 system and it boots and shuts down faster than my Win 7 and is pretty much just as responsive with a couple of nice features including some for people with dual monitors.

So you get an extra operating system which might be usefull someday and it doesn't cost you anything in speed or resources.

If you remember 3 things that fit on a post-it note, then you don't need the Start Menu but I did download the Classic Shell and found that I still love my Start Menu.

The Classic Shell was developed originally because everyone hated the Vista/Windows 7 Start Button/Menu, so you get to pick which one you want, the Windows 7 version or the XP version and it is free.
rjones2818
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11/20/2013 | 1:04:29 PM
One reason to love Windows 8/8.1
It continues the trend, started with Vista, of breaking up the hegemony of Windows on the desktop.  Mind you, Windows may keep it by default, but a few enterprising IT sorts may be able to convince their bosses that MS is not the ship to tie into so completely as has happened before.
MythicalMe
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MythicalMe,
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11/20/2013 | 1:26:31 AM
More reasons to hate Windows 8
I tried Windows 8 and enjoyed it until it developed a problem. The tools to track down problems are almost non-existant. You can boot into the DVD and fix it with the automatic fix-it tool or hopefully from a backup. As I repair PCs for a living 10 out of 10 people who walk through my door will have NEVER backed up their computers. Bypassing automatic booting is not optional, it's a requirement.

The ability to pull a hard drive and plug it into an external drive enclosure, and actually read the contents, is crucial. A client of mine brought in a UEFI enabled Windows 8 laptop that was all eff'd up. I tried to recover the data, but it was encrypted. the only solution was to reinstall.

Also, I'm not sure that I'm ready to trust the Internet with all of my data. Backing up files, or storing sensitive information just doesn't seem sensical given all that we know about the US government collection procedures. And if the US government (reda NSA) can figure out how to bypass AES encryption whose to say that China or even organized criminal syndicates can't figure it out. It seems to me that Windows 8 and 8.1 is all about getting people using cloud and cloud-based services and I am just not there yet.

Finally, moving from the Aero display in Windows 7 to Windows 8 flat interface just seems to be moving backwards. Compare the Windows 8 logo and the 3.1 logo. I'd much rather have my start orb than the Win 8.1 logo. I paid a fortune for my graphics card that can render 3D graphics in microseconds, why wouldn't I want 3D graphics in my desktop?
anon3125074093
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anon3125074093,
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11/19/2013 | 11:31:41 PM
Awful upgrade experience
I also had an absolutely awful upgrade experience to Windows 8.1. I was using Window 8.1 beta prior. I lost all my apps and even some documents. If interested I blogged about it
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423697ABcd,
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11/19/2013 | 11:09:02 PM
Re: Mobile and Desktop Hybrids
Be honest, I prefer to Windows 8.1 and upgrade it by following this post: http://www.lostwindowspassword.com/article/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-8-1.html

 
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