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8 Reasons To Hate Windows 8.1
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Joe Stanganelli
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Joe Stanganelli,
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11/22/2013 | 10:38:15 PM
Dek
Re: "Sure, it's an improvement over Windows 8. But for many PC users, Windows 8.1 is a clumsy hybrid that's a pain to navigate."

Looking at Microsoft's history, that's pretty much a Mad Lib dek, isn't it?  That statement could apply to every new version of Windows."

"Sure it's an improvement over [previous version of Windows].  But for many PC users, [new version of Windows] is a clumsy hybrid that's a pain to navigate."

My suspicion: Ultimately, people will get used to it -- and eventually kick and scream over having to leave 8.1.

Michael Endler
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11/22/2013 | 7:37:20 PM
Re: 8.1
What changes did you dislike? I can understand that someone who didn't like Windows 8 might not be persuaded by Windows 8.1, but I am surprised that a happy Windows 8 user doesn't find Windows 8.1 to be an improvement. What did you like better before?
Shane M. O'Neill
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Shane M. O'Neill,
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11/22/2013 | 5:22:00 PM
The Start stops most people
Microsoft took a big risk by making Windows 8/8.1 a hybrid tablet/desktop OS and so far the public has shrugged. It's slowness to market was a factor; it gave Apple, Amazon and Google too much time to define what a tablet should be to consumers. Users still seem to want their laptop and tablet to be separate entities. Personally, I don't need or want them to be in one machine. I still need my laptop to be big and workman-like and my tablet to be small and fun. The Surface is an awkward merger of these two contrasting form factors. Windows 8.1 has improvements, but the tile-based UI is just not very user friendly, especially with a keyboard and mouse. Many people still can't get past the Start screen. 
Tom Murphy
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Tom Murphy,
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11/22/2013 | 4:45:14 PM
Re: 8.1 should burn in hell
I run XP on all four of my PCs, but I can see the darkness at the end of the tunnel.  Social networks tend to freeze along a bunch of SaaS tools.  XP wasn't built for them, and they weren't built for XP. 

While I'm discouraged by what I'm reading in comments here, I must say I walked into the Apple store to look at the Surface and immediately found it to be far more intuitive than any Windows interface I'd ever used.  The early reviews on it had me expecting something awful that I didn't find when I actually used it.
sbfeibish
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sbfeibish,
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11/22/2013 | 12:51:28 PM
Windows 8.1 was easy to pick up.
At least for a software developer.

I've been using Linux exclusively for the past two years.

And had to come back to make sure my stuff worked on Windows browsers.

I haven't read more than a page or two of Windows 8.1 documentation.

You can kind of guess what's needed to manuever around the system.

 

Note that I was never a Windows programmer (save for a month with SilverLight).

 
rhagan04101
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11/22/2013 | 12:47:07 PM
I don't hate Windows 8.1 half as much ...
...as I hate slide shows that want me to to read 1 article on 9 different web pages, instead of putting it on a single page, to boost IW.com's click counts.

 

You lose. Ain't reading this click bait past the first page.
ANON1246113141536
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ANON1246113141536,
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11/22/2013 | 12:15:05 PM
How to cure all Windows 8 problems
I took the plunge and upgrqaded to Windows 8 some time ago.  I thought I should probably get with it and move up to the "Metro Interface".  I perservered and was starting to tolerate it then came the Widows 8.1 up grade which I aso installed.

Then thimgs went down hill rapidly.  Internet browsing problems, freezing, extreemly slow, major startup problems.  My research indicated there may be driver problems which I tried to address.  Finally my pc just ground to a hault totally unusable.

Yes I did check for virus'.

I then popped in a new hard drive and Installed Windows 7 pro. 

WOW all my problems went away!!  It looks like Windows 7 will be around as XP has been.

It seems there is no cure for Windows 8

 
DanmansonmanNZ
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11/22/2013 | 5:40:51 AM
A bit of fluff there....
Clicking start -> all apps in 8 is not different to clicking start -> all programs in Windows Vista/7.  It is the same amount of clicks.  Secondly that method is sorely outdated and reserved for those who still choose to do things the old way, all of the apps are available by simply pressing start and start to type what you want, then press enter (A 1-2 second method which has been available since Vista, so I don't know why people still browse for their applications!). Not to mention the ability to pin apps to the taskbar and/or Start. Browsing through to apps is not something I do when there are so many easy ways to get to applications in 8, so this is definitely no fault to me.  When you click All Programs in previous start menu's, you still get all the folders, you still get the app shortcut, uninstaller, readme, and whatever other junk, it's no different, yet you're happy with the old start menu's for being almost identical apart from size?  Regarding the 'duelling IE's", plainly and simply you just wouldn't use the 'metro' IE, it is obviously for touch devices.  Why is it there on PC then?  Because Windows 8 is streamlined to function on tablets and desktops without having to differentiate the appropriate OS for the device.  One OS for all devices - I don't really care if it means there are apps that will be there that I don't need, they can just be hidden away and not be used.  ScanSnap in your example, it is obvious which shortcut runs the application, they are clearly labelled, and this is a developers responsibility to appropriately name their shortcuts.  You would have exactly the same shortcuts in the old start menu.  The problem is people thinking that Start is a whole new windows....it is the Start menu, larger, and more informative, with it's own apps, that's it.
mak63
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11/21/2013 | 7:55:50 PM
hate?
 I can accept that you may not like what the Apps View or the Side by Side Apps do or be a mad, frustrated, about the lack of features in the Mail App (for other account, but outlook), or the Bing search engine thing, nevertheless, hate? Isn't that going too far?
I believe I picked the worse problems, and I still don't see why the hate.
I think the worse thing is the price ($100-200). Other than that, these issues don't seem to a big of a deal.

People are not still holding grudges for what Microsoft did with Windows Me, are they?

Ah, I forgot. Windows 8-8.1 got rid of Windows DVD Maker and Media Center. Now I hate it. I really do.
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11/21/2013 | 4:11:38 PM
Re: Mobile and Desktop Hybrids
Hi, yes, you can use Windows 8, and any Windows, on a Mac using virtualization software, such as VMWare Fusion, Parallels, or Virtual Box. I personally prefer VMWare Fusion because it integrates perfectly with my Mac Keyboard. One issue is that the Mac Keyboard does not have the "insert" key, and so when I need that, I simply plug in a Windows USB keyboard, let it recognize it, push insert key, and remove keyboard, and get back to work.

I use Windows 8, and Windows 7 on my Mac through Fusion just for Windows development, such as with Visual Studio, Qt Creator, etc, and testing how web pages look on Internet Explorer, and other browsers on Windows. For that it is perfect. When I need to surf the internet, I only use browsers on my Mac, for security purposes. And there is no problem running different Mac amd Windows programs at the same time. You configure how much RAM you allot to the Windows VMs, and you can change that anytime -- just shut down the VM and go to its settings.

I also use VMWare Fusion for Linux development, and you can have any number of Virtual Machines on your computer, limited only by your disk space. The VMs appear as files on your hard disk that grow in size as your VM takes more disk space. You set the limit in the settings, and you can defrag and claim back diskspace for your Mac.

 
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