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EU Tells US: End Mass Spying
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Susan Fourtané
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12/5/2013 | 5:16:17 AM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
Brian, 

"To avoid such inefficiencies, the only thing that will work is for NSA, GCHQ (UK) and DGSE (France) etc that are all in violation of EU's 'sincere co-operation' treaty to come together and discuss ways to collaborate, and finish inefficiencies."

That sounds reasonable. 

-Susan
Susan Fourtané
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12/5/2013 | 5:12:24 AM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
Rob, 

In the EU you find the most transparent, peaceful, and less corrupted countries in the world. Why do they represent a thread to the US? Why the US shoud invade their privacy? Why do you support this? 

-Susan
Susan Fourtané
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12/5/2013 | 5:07:00 AM
Re: How can this possibly get worse?
Lorna, 

I know. Do you really, really, really believe that the EU, where you find the most transparent, peaceful, and less corrupted countries in the world (there is proof about this) Why should the EU represent a thread to the US? Do you believe that? Why should citizens from these countries should be denied their privacy? Why? Why do you agree with this? 

-Susan 
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12/4/2013 | 4:51:31 PM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
Susan, the $22 billion to $35 billion that the US IT industry is going to lose is not going to be completely lost, as some of it Canada and EU etc will gain. On a global level some of this is going to be convert into deadweight lose because of inefficiency.

To avoid such inefficiencies, the only thing that will work is for NSA, GCHQ (UK) and DGSE (France) etc that are all in violation of EU's 'sincere co-operation' treaty to come together and discuss ways to collaborate, and finish inefficiencies.
Lorna Garey
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12/2/2013 | 11:00:39 AM
Re: How can this possibly get worse?
Susan, The NSA's stated mission is to produce signal intelligence on foreign entities. The FBI is the agency charged with policing with the US. The EU is by definition within the NSA's purview.
Susan Fourtané
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Susan Fourtané,
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12/2/2013 | 10:04:11 AM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
Rob, 

I doubt those people who threaten US security are in some of the European countries that are under the NSA eye. Why do you think the EU is asking to end the spying? 

-Susan 
RobPreston
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12/2/2013 | 9:54:15 AM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
So we want a National Security Agency that's not allowed to venture outside the US? It's charged with ensuring national security, not policing the 50 states. Most of the people who threaten US security are outside its borders, not inside. 
Susan Fourtané
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12/2/2013 | 9:44:52 AM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
Rob, 

With the difference that Europe is not American territory. 

-Susan
RobPreston
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12/2/2013 | 9:41:11 AM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
Limiting the NSA to US borders is like limiting the NYPD to Foley Square. 
Susan Fourtané
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Susan Fourtané,
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12/2/2013 | 4:39:17 AM
Re: NSA data collection should be limited to US borders
Brian, 

Yes, but you are forgetting about my main point: the NSA should stay in its national terrorory only: the US, not the EU.  

-Susan
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