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Microsoft Sells Dell's Venue 8 Pro Tablet For $99
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ricegf
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ricegf,
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12/7/2013 | 12:11:13 PM
Good deal at $99, otherwise...
It's a quite decent tablet and great deal for $99 despite the limited app selection, but at $199 not so much.

For example, the Kindle HDX has been selling on Amazon for $179 (bought one for my wife for Christmas, actually). It has a better 1920x1200 screen, 2.2 GHz quad-core, the (in)famous MayDay button, and of course (with Prime) an excellent infrastructure including free book and movie rentals, a free normally-paid Android app each day, excellent shopping, strong supporting cloud services, etc.

Or try the newly updated Nexus 7, with comparable specs to the Kindle HDX plus Google Play and pure Android goodness, and selling at a regular price of $189 at Walmart.

You can even get an original iPad Mini for $299 at regular price - similar specs to the Venue, but an app store overflowing with tablet-specific apps and top-shelf build quality. And it's from Apple, for those for whom that matters.

Unless you have a legacy app that you can't replace (and really want to try to run on a low-res touch screen), or just love Microsoft, or you're among the early buyers who get the $99 price, these other options look better (to me - YMMV) than the Venue 8 Pro even at the $199 sale price.

However, I'm happy for those who really *want* a decent Windows tablet at only a small premium (or a discount for the lucky first buyers) - looks like they are finally getting their wish. Merry Christmas!  :-)
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12/7/2013 | 12:50:08 PM
Re: Good deal at $99, otherwise...
You can share apps between your desktop, laptop and tablet on windows 8. This has not be realized yet, by many buyers. For the price of an Apple laptop, you can get a Windows 8 laptop and tablet. I can run software that is over ten years old on my windows 8 laptop. So if you want a tablet that can access CAD, blueprints, interface with a PLC, and play angry birds, then buy Win 8. But if you want to post to facebook and watch adult movies, then The A A tablets are great.
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ricegf,
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12/7/2013 | 1:37:22 PM
Re: Good deal at $99, otherwise...
Interesting points, Jesse, thanks.

One problem with running many legacy apps on a small-screen touch Celeron-class tablet is that they run poorly - this is why so few of the first 10 years of Windows tablets sold (yes, I tried one), and why Apple didn't make a "tablet Mac" but instead an optimized incompatible touch product that conquered the market for a while. But as I said, if you have a legacy Windows-only app that you MUST run on a tablet, the Venue makes sense.

As far as accessing CAD and blueprints, most large corporations accomplish this with iPads using a cloud server (such as with Citrix) to host the application, and one of many apps on the tablet for encrypted remote access.  As a bonus, it will run FAR better than a Celeron can support - which is important especially for heavy work such as CAD (though security and data management is also a large concern).  Microsoft recommends this approach for heavy program access on their own tablets, by the way, for these reasons.

Modern programmable logic controllers can be programmed on both iPad and Android (and Windows and Linux and Macs) of course, so I'm not sure exactly where you're going with that one.

Angry Birds was actually LATE to Windows - it originally shipped for iPhone in Dec 2009, followed shortly by a version for Nokia's Linux tablets, then iPad in Apr 2010, Palm Pre in Aug 2010, and Symbian^3 and Android in Oct 2010. It arrived on Chromebooks and operating systems running the Chrome browser (including Windows) in May 2011, and last on Windows Phone in Jun 2011. Not sure that was your best choice there.

You are correct that lack of a native Facebook app was another complaint long lodged against Windows mobile devices, though that has since been remedied. Facebook is pretty ubiquitous now.

However, though I'm not the expert you are, I understand that many adult movies still require Silverlight, which is an example of a fading legacy program that I mentioned the Venue DID offer as an advantage - Silverlight was a Windows-only Flash competitor best known for keeping Mac users from watching the Olympics on-line (ahem).

So in the end I don't find your argument is very compelling. You certainly shouldn't argue app availability!   Instead, consider the Venue for what it is - a very decent and (with the current sale) fairly price-competitive alternative to the dominate iPad and Android mobile platforms. If you like it, buy it, and I'll rejoice with you!

Best wishes!

 
samicksha
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12/7/2013 | 11:27:37 PM
Re: Good deal at $99, otherwise...
I guess MS should see some good traffic at their stores with this deal, also i am little curious ..what if APPLE does same kind of discount job...
ricegf
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ricegf,
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12/8/2013 | 7:25:09 AM
Re: Good deal at $99, otherwise...
@Amicksha, certainly Apple would sell a ocean-going shipload of tablets if they put the iPad Mini on a similar $99 / $199 firesale deal. I certainly wouldn't expect that to happen this year, though, as they are holding around half the USA market while raking in profits with premium pricing. Besides, I've never noticed Apple caring one whit about market share; they seem to optimize for profits rather well, though. :-)

Amazon has the opposite philosophy - ignore profits, buy market share - and has already offered a pretty sweet $179 limited time deal (since expired) on their brand-new-for-Christmas Fire 7 HDX. Since they never publish sales figures, though, I can't evaluate the extent that it goosed sales. Pretty significant, I'd guess.

When Google put the "old" Nexus 7 on sale to clear inventory for the "new" Nexus 7 earlier this year, they were gone in a matter of hours. Thought I heard a sonic boom over Mountain View.

But who can forget the HP TouchPad 10" tablet that sold for a brief shining moment for $99 two years ago. Even with a dead-end (yet beautiful) OS, if they had put them in a physical store, it would be a black hole even today!

@aweb199, "This is a small touch computer that shared my Internet favorites, email setups, and apps out of the box".  That's a great point - a major driver in choice of tablet platform is your investment in a particular ecosystem. If you've used Apple's services for years, the iPad is the obvious choice; if Google, then Android; if Amazon, then Fire; and if Microsoft, as in your case, then Windows.

It was really only Microsoft's lack of a cloud ecosystem and very late entry into the touch market that allowed over 90% of their customers to jump to Apple and Android. It will be interesting to see if they can woo them back now. So glad you found a tablet you love! (I'd consider selling that Nexus 7 on Craigslist right now, btw - they are in pretty high demand for Christmas, even if it's the "old" version.)
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12/13/2013 | 5:06:05 PM
Re: Good deal at $99, otherwise...
Try a device with one of the latest Atom processors.  A Celeron it is not.

This is not necessarily directed at you but the misinformation in these comments is astonishing.

I have this device and if you don't have it, don't comment on what you think it is and is not.
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ricegf,
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12/13/2013 | 5:57:31 PM
Re: Good deal at $99, otherwise...
Actually, Intel's Atom is essentially a BayTrail Celeron - lower power, but actually slower than (say) the higher frequency Ivy Bridge Celerons. But we'll call it Atom-class if you insist, and it won't change my point. Anyone running high-end CAD applications on an Atom processor will not be productive. And no, with 30 years experience in corporate IT, I don't need your permission to offer my professional opinion on a blog! ;-)
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12/13/2013 | 8:25:10 PM
Re: Good deal at $99, otherwise...
Try a device with one of the latest Atoms before judging them.  Your credentials could be impressive depending on where and what you've been doing but if you express opinion without experience... well, let's not go there.

I don't know what Intel did but the graphics and CPU are impressive... it even impressed my 10 year old running Minecraft on it.  He's accustomed to an unlocked 2nd gen i-5 overclocked to 4.5Ghz with a 6xx series nVidia GTX.

It was very also very snappy running Eclipse, which by no means is easy on underpowered devices.  The key limiters are the 2GB of RAM and local disk performance.  The eMMC flask disk is considerably slower than my laptop's 500MB/s SSD and seems to be easily overwhelmed when running a development DB server.  The RAM is also single channel which limits bandwidth.

The Windows 8.1 experience index (it's still there if you know where to look), rates the device 4.1.  This sounds slow but the memory score is capped at 5.5 because the unit only has 2GB RAM.  The CPU sub-score is a respectable 6.3!  For comparison my 2nd gen core i-5 2.4Ghz laptop (single core turbo to ~3Ghz) is 7.0.

 
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12/7/2013 | 1:22:47 PM
Data collection
One area these can of tablets can really shine is mobile data collection. Yes, you can do it on the iPad but you're limited basically to FileMaker, a database which is at least one generation behind anything on Windows. And Android apps ares still struggling in that area. But a tablet running full Windows has quite a few alternatives -- and totally compatoible with what most folks (sigh) are still running on their desktops and/or internal networks.

 
mattt1986
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12/7/2013 | 2:40:28 PM
iPad envy
Why do tech writers always try to compare new tablets to the ipad,? Sure it's the gold standard... But if you are in the market for a Hyundai Accent, you probably don't care how it stacks up to a Rolls Royce. Different strokes for different folks.
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12/7/2013 | 5:24:57 PM
Re: iPad envy
maybe because rolls royce is a wrong analogy (rolls cost > 100 X accent).

try toyota camry with Tesla S
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12/9/2013 | 1:40:19 AM
Re: iPad envy
I suppose if you read a lot of tech stories, you might get tired of repeated iPad comparisons, but here are a few things to keep in mind:

1) The iPad has WAY more market share than Rolls Royce. In fact, the iPad is the most used single line of tablets. That alone makes it a sensible point of comparison when discussing new products in the same category.

2) The iPad Mini is a particularly apt comparison, given the Venue Pro costs the same (outside of Monday's promotion) as the cheapest iPad Mini.

3) Maybe it wasn't clear, but "Different strokes for different folks" was sort of the point of the iPad comparison--e.g. "[T]he Venue 8 Pro's major sales draw isn't touch apps; it's support for desktop software, particularly Microsoft Office."
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12/9/2013 | 8:38:32 AM
Re: iPad envy
I know that sometimes it feels over done to compare every tablet to an iPad but it is the experience that most people want to see a comparison with.  I think we'll stop seeing the need for that comparison once the Windows tablets have time to establish themselves and the app store catches up but for now it's a necessary evil.  That being said it does get difficult to compare the two when the OS more closely matches the MacBook Air but I since the mobile OSes and desktop OSes have been getting closer and closer in feel I suspect it will only be a matter of time before OSX and iOS come together.
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12/7/2013 | 5:28:07 PM
20 for $99... to alienate the rest of the clueless customers
good job, monkeysoft.... you are history.
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12/8/2013 | 1:52:09 AM
Using the same OS is more productive
Running the same Windows 8.1 OS on desktop, laptop, and tablet makes me more productive than using different ones.  I bought a Nexus 7 a year ago, and it was not productive to use a foreign environment.  It more or less sits in a drawer.  I have had a Venue 8 Pro for a week, and it is working out much better.  The Windows button position is fine, so is battery life, processor speed, and display resolution. Intel is getting much better with the new generation of Atoms, and the 3740D has the same performance as an Apple A7.

This is a small touch computer that shared my Internet favorites, email setups, and apps out of the box.  And both desktop and Store apps work on all my systems now.

 
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12/8/2013 | 1:21:23 PM
Re: Using the same OS is more productive
I was using windows 8 for my pc. But what i think the Windows 8 is not made for professionals. We should love and use Windows 7.

 

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12/8/2013 | 11:48:27 PM
Microsoft claims false report
Microsoft's customer serivce is saying that the article is bogus and the deal is false.  I searched their website and wanted to wait to see if they would change the price at midnight.  Any thoughts?
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12/9/2013 | 12:05:48 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
this is FAKE. No shuch deal.  thanks for wasting my time!
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12/9/2013 | 12:15:19 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
Not fake. Microsoft put up a website that indicates the deal will go live at 7:00 AM. So if you're on the East Coast and expected that you could flip over to Microsoft's website at midnight, no dice. Wait a few more hours, and you'll have your shot.

EDIT: The hyperlink isn't visible, but the word "website" in the first line of this post has the link to the promo site.
Michael Endler
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12/9/2013 | 12:11:48 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
@anon9094197732,

If that's true, the Microsoft customer service rep with whom you spoke is seriously misinformed.


A few things:


1) Literally hundreds of articles have been written about this deal. If the deal were bogus, you'd expect there'd be at least a few dozen articles (probably many more) saying as much. But as far as I know, there have been none.


2) I confirmed the details with Microsoft PR before writing this story.

3) Microsoft has a website about the deal.
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12/9/2013 | 12:22:44 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
What website ? You obviously knew the sale would start at 7am and managed not to mention that in the article? After all it was mostly an ad piece so why not just get it all out?

Sorry Michael, maybe you got duped. Either that or you got information not properly vetted.

Microsoft customer service agents know absoluetly nothing about it. I guess they told both me and the other person bad info so everyone there knows nothing.

The Microsoft Store won't let you buy the product, it will allow you to buy all the other tablets.

You didn't look at their shopping site? You'd know then that it doesn't list the item out of stock, it simply can't be purchased.

Maybe instead of defending what you put out you could do some research and report more than spoon fed PR which is exactly what your story looks like.

The other stories? So then what is different about you and why should anyone bother reading you? If you hide behind being the same as everyone else then that makes you a commodity doesn't it?
Michael Endler
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12/9/2013 | 12:33:12 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
As I've pointed out elsewhere, the deal isn't live yet. A website I linked to previously indicates it will go live at 7:00 AM Pacific. I can't account for why Microsoft's customer service agents are evidently in the dark. But I have documented confirmation from Microsoft about this deal. If the deal does turn out to be false, rest assured I'll run a story Monday morning that includes the email, and that asks why Microsoft would intentionally perpetuate false information.

 Edit: Hyperlinks aren't visible in the post for some reason, but the word "website" in item 3 of the list I posted above includes the link to Microsoft's deal promo page. I also inserted the link into the word "website" in the previous sentence.
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12/9/2013 | 12:58:09 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
Fair enough but surely you can see the use of editorial content for PR purposes perspective here. Microsoft isn't doing itself any favors.

You can bet they won't earn any high marks for the way this was handeled. 

It would be good of you to do a follow up story to see how realistic the sale was. Microsoft will sell perhaps 1000 Venue Tablets and gained perhaps 10,000 dissatisifed potential customers. Different story angle instead of a PR relay:

Microsoft tries to become relevant in tablets, sells 1000 tablets at a loss. Can anyone say HP Touchpad? While Windows isn't going away, there is no fear in the market that Microsoft will gain significant marketshare with this fiasco.

They are trying so hard to make it hard to buy a Windows product. In the past week I installed Linux Mint on 3 family laptops instead of upgrading them to Windows 8.1, passed out three USB sticks with Unbuntu on them to friends who have since migrated to that OS. This is no longer a fluke, Microsoft is losing customers who have been with them for over 20 years.

That says something.
Michael Endler
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12/9/2013 | 1:34:13 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
Okay, since it's Sunday night here on the West Coast, I haven't had luck reaching anyone outside Microsoft's call centers. But I spoke to a call center supervisor (she said she couldn't give her full name) based in New York. I can report the following:

-- If a customer service rep said outright that the deal was false, the customer service rep spoke outside of Microsoft policy. The supervisor told me that company policy is to say, "We cannot confirm that" in response to situations such as this one. The reps should not have denied the price, and they should not have suggested (as some readers have reported to me) that InformationWeek (or any other publication reporting this deal) was wrong.

-- Microsoft customer service is basically in the dark on this deal until it is live. The supervisor told me that they don't have access to pricing information until the deal is active. So basically, the people I talked to in Microsoft PR knew about this deal, but at least some of the people in Microsoft customer service (perhaps all?) knew nothing.

-- My assumption is that some people called Microsoft customer support around midight EST, asking why they couldn't find the Venue 8 Pro deal. Because the deal doesn't go live until 7 AM Pacific (not a detail the supervisor could confirm even at this point, btw), the reps wouldn't have seen the pricing info.The reps should have said, "I cannot confirm that," but based on what I've heard from some readers, it appears at least some of them said something more like, "No, all the articles about that deal are wrong."
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12/9/2013 | 10:14:08 AM
Re: Microsoft claims false report
GM Michael,

First of all, thanks for taking time and documenting what would have been a great buy for quite a few people. I dont think you have any other but sincere intentions. It turns out that at 7am PST/10am EST today (Dec 9, 2013), the link provided in your post went under with error "Placeholder Error File" [used 4 different systems, on different network; including Mobile Device]. This is expected as everyone would have been trying to get on with the sale. But going to the MSFT store in Atlanta, GA - we were told that there is no such sale.

Personally, I dont need to see the proof you were provided by MSFT. I trust you. But please take that mail back to MSFT and advice them, that they used you.

Keep up the good work.
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12/9/2013 | 10:15:41 AM
Deal Stolen By Bots
As I feared, this deal was stolen by people using bots.  The website was pretty much down 15 minutes before the deal, showing loading or 404 messages.  Repeated refreshing would occasionally bring up the product page, but the "add to cart" button wouldn't load.  I found the same problem on multiple browsers.

I refreshed just as the magic hour arrived, and the page actually loaded up.  At $199.  In the split second while my screen was loading, the deal was sold out (almost certainly with the use of bots.)

This much-touted deal was never actually available to the public.

As I write this message 15 minutes later, the microsoft store is still giving 'website not found' and error messages frequently.  The add to cart button has just appeared for the first time since 15 minutes before the deal.
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12/9/2013 | 10:23:08 AM
Re: Deal Stolen By Bots
I had 50 bots running in instances of chrome and Firefox since 9:30 and they never saw the 99 deal, only two got to the checkout page but the price was 199 then
MJCooper
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12/9/2013 | 10:40:54 AM
Re: Deal Stolen By Bots
See how brazen people are about using these bots?  This is a well-known vulnerability for these types of sales.  If microsoft has no intention of securing the sale so that it can't be stolen like this, they shouldn't have it.  It's deliberate deception.
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12/9/2013 | 11:00:03 AM
Re: Deal Stolen By Bots
It's not stealing it's simply out smarting people who won't take the time to learn to code them, I write bots all the time to test MVC intranet sites I create for work. Don't have the player hate the game.
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12/9/2013 | 10:25:59 AM
Ms site is struggling
It's clear the 99 for a decent tablet would make a killing on the market, the entire ms site is overwhelmed and won't even load anymore all 50 of my bots are idle now
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12/9/2013 | 10:32:03 AM
Never was true
While the tablet is on sale today it's for 199 I just spoke with the manager at my local Microsoft Store and he said the deal was always just for 199. They have plenty in stock as well at that price but it's not cheap enough for me to buy it....oh well aside from wasting time to write my bots I'm not out anything
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12/9/2013 | 10:41:16 AM
MICROSHAFT SETUP
December 9, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Bull, they never sold any at $99, I logged in to store at 9:00est, at 10:00est here is what everyone got "placeholder error file", at 10:09 "no add to cart" but price was moved up to $199, then at 10:17 there is "add to cart" with price of $199, VERY NICE SCAM MIROSHAFT, you just lost me from every buying your brand again !
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12/9/2013 | 10:57:42 AM
Order confirmation and then Microsoft cancelled my order!!!
I got as far as putting in my credit card information.  I entered it and submitted the order and then got an error page stating that I needed to return to the Microsoft Store homepage.  I tried reloading and it gave me an order confirmation.  I checked my credit card account and it shows that there were 2 charges that were authorized waiting to be charged for the $217 including tax.  I called Microsoft to have them remove 1 of the charges and they told me that they apologize but the purchase should not have gone through since they are out of stock and have been since 10:15am.


So apparently I am not getting one even though my order went through and was verified as confirmed.....

What kind of bullshit is this????!!!
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12/9/2013 | 11:23:54 AM
Re: Deal Stolen By Bots
Of course it's stealing.  Did this article mentions the fact that you need specialized software to qualify for this deal?  Nope.  Did any other mention it?  Did any Microsoft press releases mention it?  Nope.

You're competing against people who read these articles and honestly think that they have a chance at the sale.  That's obviously wrong and you all know it.

That's like going to a physical store with a Black Friday sale, seeing the 100 people who have been in line for days, and cutting to the front of the line.  Just because you know you can get away with it doesn't make it right.  Because everyone you cut in front of is your victim.  You should be ashamed. 
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12/9/2013 | 12:48:11 PM
Re: Deal Stolen By Bots
Your anology is wrong, a bot is not "cutting in line" as you called it.

Its like I asked 50 of my closet friends and neighbors to wait in line for me, the first one that got in purchased the produce for me and I told the others that if 1 got one then they could stop waiting.

Learn to code

 

 
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12/9/2013 | 11:38:28 AM
Site back to normal
Just ordered mine. Deal is back up for $199 without any crazy traffic it seems. Hurry and get yours. Says sold out under the 12 day deals tab but if you manually search for the dell venue 8 pro it says $199 with add to cart available. Order went through smoothly. 
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12/9/2013 | 11:40:29 AM
What Microsoft PR said Monday morning
Okay, if anyone visited a retail location and was told that there were never any $99 units available, I suggest you call the store and demand an explanation. Below is what I was just emailed by Microsoft PR, in response to the conflicting reports that have floated around this morning:

"With each of the 12 Days of Deals, the daily doorbuster is for the first 20 customers in line. So today, the Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet was/is $99 for the first 20 customers and $199 thereafter until supplies last.

Tomorrow, customers can get a Garmin Forerunner 110 Fitness watch plus a $25 gift card for $129.99 as supplies last. The daily doorbuster for the first 20 customers inside the store is the Garmin Fitness Watch and $25 gift card for $99.99.

All Microsoft retail stores are going live with these deals each day until the 20th and all  store managers can speak to them."


So there you have it.
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12/9/2013 | 12:26:28 PM
Re: What Microsoft PR said Monday morning
You sir are a very stupid person if you really believe MicroShaft would sell them at $99, SHOW ME A receipt and prove it to me and the rest of the CON'd world
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12/9/2013 | 12:29:15 PM
Re: What Microsoft PR said Monday morning
WE HAVE IT ? MORE BS AND LIE'S, SCREW MICROSHAFT, I'LL GO ELSEWHERE FROM NOW ON
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12/9/2013 | 12:45:46 PM
Re: What Microsoft PR said Monday morning
Take a look at my situation if you would: I was 5th in line at 7:00am in Oak Brook, IL. 

Then, the manager (?) posts this sign. 

After he saw me taking a picture of his posted sign, he came to the door. According to him, they gave away vouchers (they said wristbands) for the "20 people standing in line at 2am" ... in other words, they gave them away to their friends to resell for profit after tipping them off to be there at 2. Thanks Microsoft.

The sale was supposed to start at 10am; whoever was there, reaps the reward. I was there. My girlfriend was there. And 3 others were too. Microsoft, or at the very least this manager, screwed us all. 

 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100318996003194&set=gm.190048171185565&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf
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12/9/2013 | 12:53:06 PM
Re: What Microsoft PR said Monday morning
They had them at one point, the store by my house, like many others,  handed out vouchers yesterday for the tablets so their was not a single one available this morning.  My understanding according to what I was hearing inside and outside the store was mostly friends of employees got the vouchers...Oh well I guess I would have done the same thing if I was an employee, I did already check craigslist and there are a couple already on there for $175 so someone turned an easy $75 profit if they sell it for that price.

 

 
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12/9/2013 | 11:44:13 AM
Pissed
I also tried to make a purchase, but the Microsoft Page would not load. Kept getting a "Place holder Error File"
I kept trying and trying. Then the price of $199.00 came up!
I knew it was a shot in the dark to get on at the $99.00 price, but thought I would at least get a shot!
A crashed or not responding website is NOT a shot and is not fair to the people that were trying to get that price!

I called the sales/support number:  877-696-7786 and talked to a "Michael". He would NOT give me his last name, (ok, I understand this) but he would NOT give me his employee number. I wanted to make sure I had this information for follow up.
He said that the $99.00 sale was for the 1st 100 people, I said that I understand that, but people should at least be able to get to the website. He did not care, said that there was noting that he could do.

I asked to speak with his supervision, he refused to let me talk to him. I was shocked! He then said that his supervisor was not in. I asked for his supervisors name, again. He again would not give it to me. He said that his supervisor would only tell me the same thing. I asked him who he was to make the decision for his supervisor. He would not give me the supervisors name, at all. He said that I could call back (the number I called). I said and talk to who???
He said whoever answered the call.  This is BS! He never did give me the name, then "ended the call"
Again, this is BS as I would have at least expected to be able to connect to  Microsoft to at least have a chance to get the deal!

NOT HAPPY!!!

 

 

 
AlfieJr
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12/9/2013 | 11:56:10 AM
Fake Sale
gotta call BS on this. @ 20 per store times about 60 MS retail stores + just 100 on line sales, that totals only about 1300 units to be sold everywhere at this $99 teaser price. the real sale price is the $199 "while supplies last." but then, maybe that's enough to meet demand after all ...

we're seeing almost all tablets getting big holiday sale price chops now. the Race To The Bottom is on! all except iPads that is. gee, maybe that is significant?

 
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12/9/2013 | 12:09:17 PM
total scam
I am complaining about the retail store. I went to the microsoft store located at twelve oaks mall in Novi, MI and I was the 12th person in the line. However, after 5 or 6 people purchased, the staff told us all the venue 8 at $99 have been sold out? I remembered that each people can only buy one and the store should offer 20. The only thing I can imagine is that the store employees purchased them for themselves or for their relatives or friends in advance. That is totally unacceptable!...one thing is for sure, that i will never purchase a microsoft product ever again!
PaulS969
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12/9/2013 | 12:21:17 PM
Backordered.....
I finally was able to place an order, looks like they are backordered now though if you get an order through....
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12/9/2013 | 1:23:11 PM
I got mine
We went to the OKC store at 0730 and was #11 & 12 in line (with wife). Got them at $99 each and the store staff was great. The process was very smooth and they offered free drinks to everyone in line.
Thomas Claburn
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12/9/2013 | 3:20:26 PM
Re: I got mine
I'm not really a Windows 8 user but I'd try it for $99.
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12/9/2013 | 3:55:56 PM
Office home is not included
are you sure it included Office Home and Student? i bough online at $199, and  i called them, and email them, CSR said Office home is not included... 
Michael Endler
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12/9/2013 | 4:28:32 PM
Re: Office home is not included
This is the first I've heard about it.

I suggest asking them why their own product page says Office Home and Student is included.  http://holiday.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/html/pbPage.PDP/productID.289455200?Icid=12DaysHero_Link_DellVenue_120913
ACoBildo
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12/9/2013 | 5:30:49 PM
Re: Office home is not included
It is included. The product key is in the box.
Michael Endler
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12/9/2013 | 5:46:53 PM
Re: Office home is not included
Yep, I just found this thread: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/4586/t/19533657.aspx


A few other people have had the same issue, from the look of it. Glad it didn't take long to get it worked out!
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12/9/2013 | 10:04:02 PM
Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
doesn't look like Microsoft put this device on sale -- still selling for $299.99
Michael Endler
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12/9/2013 | 10:12:36 PM
Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
Sorry, no, not correct.

If you looked at Microsoft's website in the last several hours, it makes sense that you saw $299 listed as the price. The reduced prices were only valid until stock levels were depleted. Microsoft said that the online deal sold out almost immediately.So it's been something like ten hours since the site would have said anything other than $299.

But since there still seems to be confusion, let me be unequivocal: That Microsoft put the device on sale is beyond refuting. Several comments in this thread testify to as much, as do half a dozen threads on Reddit, to say nothing of numerous other sources across the Internet. I've also spoken to many people today (both Microsoft employees and Microsoft customers) about the sale. The fact that the price currently says $299 is merely evience that the sale is already over. It's clear that many people did not like the way the sale was executed, but the sale did indeed occur.
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12/10/2013 | 12:08:46 AM
Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
It was all completely b*******from Microsoft a big lie, they never put it on sale for $99 and if they did it was probably to the employees I didn't even sleep I was checking the whole time I'm very disappointed because that to me was false advertisement
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12/13/2013 | 12:49:34 PM
Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
Well I got 2 tablets that morning. But here in Puerto Rico not many people knew about the promotion. Still, the line was huge 2 hours before the store opened. I got there so early i was #13 in the line.
Michael Endler
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12/13/2013 | 2:30:04 PM
Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm curious: After the $99 tablets had sold out, how many people went ahead and bought the device at $199? Did some of the people in line leave after the heaviest discounts were off the table?

And how are you liking the device? Among Windows mini-tablets (not necessarily tablets in general), it seems like one of the nicer options. Windows tablets rely on Office for a lot of their appeal-- but as I indicated in the article, I'm not sure how appealing people will find Office on such a small screen.
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12/13/2013 | 2:39:15 PM
Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
After the first 20, they actually had vouchers for the people that were left so they could get it later in the afternoon or the next day. I dunno if they gave them at 99, but at the very least they got it at 199. They promised everybody at the line would have their tablet that day or next day as the latest. Regarding the device, im truly happy with it. It has wonderful performance and now im looking for keyboard options. Games work well and emulators run perfectly. Wordament is fun too. I have small hands so using desktop mlde is very easy for me. I even cheked the BIOS out to tweak some settings. Its wonderful.
Michael Endler
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12/13/2013 | 2:51:03 PM
Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
Thanks for responding-- and I'm glad you like your device! I hadn't heard about vouchers being handed out after stocks were depleted, though I know some U.S. Microsoft stores received additional inventory later in the day, which allowed them to extend the $199 deal.

Did anyone else have an experience like this?
Alienfire
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12/10/2013 | 12:45:25 AM
Re: Dell Venue 8 Pro Tablet (32 GB)
Please count me as one who did not like the way it was handled.  This form of 'loss leader strategies' is much like the car advertisements where they publish a price for a brand of car, but that price only exists on a single car.  I am sure it works and is legal but it feels dirty to me.
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12/26/2013 | 5:54:37 AM
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