CES 2014: Cisco's Internet of Everything Vision
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User Rank: Ninja
1/11/2014 | 11:58:07 AM
I am glad Cisco is getting involved with this. One of the reasons why is because I think that security could become a major issue down the road. Fortunately, Cisco is pretty good in that respect. But with all of these new embedded machines becoming part of the internet of things, there will need to be some kind of new technology that allows some sort of software firewall or some sort to block these machines from all getting hacked.

A doomsday scenario, but highly likely. 
User Rank: Author
1/13/2014 | 12:12:21 PM
Re: Security
The recent retail store data breaches add credence your concerns. If the tech industry hasn't gotten that part of security right (how many years ago was the TJ Maxx breach?), how ready are we to take on the security of Cisco's highly-interconnected vision?
User Rank: Apprentice
1/11/2014 | 12:14:15 PM
city or company
In your slide featuring the mayor of barcelona you estimate how much the "company"has saved. An ironic error as technology enables corporatocracy creep. It also highlights the necessity that cisco be held to its promise of transparecy. I do not see a word in here about individual opportunity to opt in our out of, for instance, the snart car features, or any other mention of privacy by design informing cisco's direction here.
Michael Endler
Michael Endler,
User Rank: Author
1/11/2014 | 3:38:40 PM
Re: city or company
Thanks for the catch, epjones. 

I definitely relate to some of your concerns about corporatocracy, and I agree that Cisco will have to be extremely transparent if this technology is going to fulfill Chambers's predictions. The same goes for its partners, who are the ones actually implementing Cisco's stuff for the end user. 

The second slide overviews security and privacy to the extent that Chambers talked about it at CES-- i.e. mostly broad allusions to users being able to opt in or opt out, and to users being "in control." But as I mentioned on the same slide, Chambers didn't elaborate on this attitude, or how it might vary across different products and services-- e.g. how is opting in or out of a television service different from opting in or out of a smart car service?

I actually heard someone at Cisco suggest once that data from the "quantified self" could one day be used to dictate your health care costs in the same way that credit scores are currently used to dictate your loan options. That sounds positively dystopic to me. That said, I've probably talked to Cisco execs a dozen times in the last year about IoE, and the importance of "opt in/ opt out" transparency has been a recurring theme. I was also there early last year when Chambers pitched business and government leaders on the idea of an Internet of Things World Forum, and everyone present appeared appropriately aware of the tech's privacy and security implications.

In the end, if IoE is done right, I think it can be profoundly positive-- but if it's not done right, we could have profound results of another sort.
Joe Datacenter
Joe Datacenter,
User Rank: Apprentice
1/11/2014 | 5:55:55 PM
Re: city or company
Michael, I find the "quantified self" concept scary as well. I am not that keen on IoT in my house or on my body, but I do see huge possibilities for resource management and dealing with some of the very critical problems that face us as humans, rather than for mere convenience. I'd like to see more cities like Barcelona carefully monitoring power and water so there is enough to go around for everybody. I know several power companies offer household energy management tools, but I'm a little afraid of that just yet. Half the time my cable TV doesn't even work right!
Thomas Claburn
Thomas Claburn,
User Rank: Author
1/13/2014 | 7:45:40 PM
Re: city or company
>In the end, if IoE is done right, I think it can be profoundly positive-- but if it's not done right, we could have profound results of another sort.

I would suggest that the issue is best framed by asking who is being served. If it's the product owner, so much the better. If it's the service provider or some other third party, there's a problem.
Li Tan
Li Tan,
User Rank: Ninja
1/13/2014 | 10:51:04 PM
Re: city or company
I would appreciate IoE for end-user product instead of service provider, government agency or any 3rd party stuff. The personal information security is already of big concern nowadays. I cannot imagine if we are surrounded by smart equipments with IoE built-in without knowing what they are doing there...
User Rank: Apprentice
1/11/2014 | 7:18:46 PM
too much talk , not enuff action
People and companies have been talking about sensor webs/nets in building materials for decades. no action. 

People and companies have been talking about bio-monitors, replacing doctor checkups and giving continuous realtime blood indictators for decades. no action.

yawn. its all hawkers and con artists who's mouths are writing checks their companies cannot deliver.
User Rank: Author
1/13/2014 | 5:43:44 PM
Re: too much talk , not enuff action
I agree we've been hearing some of these dreamy examples for ages, like automated health monitoring that remains a distance dream. But it's a mistake to dismiss the big idea because some examples are failing. Listen to ConocoPhillips CIO talk about using sensor data from gas and oil wells to optimize performance (audio link below). The big change was being able to collect data every minute, instead of daily, and the company estimates some wells can get up to 30% performance as a result.

Here's that link to our CIO interview:

User Rank: Apprentice
1/11/2014 | 10:38:30 PM
great for Cisco partners
I'm sure all this will make the NSA's job much easier.
User Rank: Author
1/13/2014 | 11:59:01 AM
Bigger Picture
Cisco has aimed a lot of its marketing at consumers for years, and not because it was pushing Flip phones and Linksys routers. It's the same reason IBM pushes its Smarter Planet messaging to consumers: It wants everyone -- consumers and business people alike -- to equate its brand with the modern technology-based economy and world. It's not a product message.
Lorna Garey
Lorna Garey,
User Rank: Author
1/14/2014 | 1:30:09 PM
Re: Bigger Picture
Agreed, Rob. The Watson commercials are particularly good I think. What surprises me most about  this Cisco CES event is that it features Silverman. I find her mildly amusing, but she's not exactly a safe, "corporate" choice - quite the contrary. She has the potential to get Cisco the exact wrong kind of mainstream publicity. 
User Rank: Apprentice
1/13/2014 | 3:35:55 PM
Trade off,

Evolutionaqry internet on the way

Any surveys as to:




Get something /Give something


User Rank: Apprentice
1/13/2014 | 4:58:17 PM
The sky's the limit
Where there's value and benefit for mankind, we should all get behind this!  As many above have already stated.  Let's try to be sure we use our collective innovative and collaborative powers for Good, not Evil!
User Rank: Author
1/13/2014 | 6:57:25 PM
Public sector benefits
Interesting to note that Cisco released a study just before Chambers' talk, projecting the public sector (including the defense and education sectors) could potentially generate $4.6 trillion in savings and new revenue streams worldwide over the next 10 years.  But having the ability and collecting on it are two different things.

User Rank: Strategist
1/13/2014 | 7:11:36 PM
The value of the network goes up the more you put on it.
We used to say the value of the network goes up as more people become part of it. Now we say, the value of the network goes up the more nodes -- people and devices, and systems to anlyze people and devices -- are on it. Chambers is just expanding the old Sun Microsystems mantra about the value of the network.
User Rank: Apprentice
3/9/2014 | 4:57:13 PM
The smarter The devices get the Dumber we get....

Looking at my Grand Children sitting with Ipads, Smartphones, Tablets, Laptops, I asked them a simple question. Do any of you know How to whistle... The reply was Why would we want to whistle.

Answer from me is Because we Can. You might not never need to but believe it or not we can.

Looking out the window it was a Nice sunny day outside a Little cold and still snow on the ground.

I asked them all to come outside with me and lets play in the snow. My 3 Grandchildren said why they are having fun on their Devices...

I then grabbed a small ball and a bag of small pretzels and asked if any one wanted to play JAX. what is that Grandpa. They all went back to Laptops cell phones and Tablets Fast... I started playing JAX on the table Eating each pretzel I got picked up... They asked if they can have some... They can have the ones that they pick up as JAX.....

MY POINT IS as our technology gets smarted Our children are getting Dumber...

Who Built the world wide web.... Did they play JAX... DID John Chambers Play Jax. did Bill Gates Play JAX.... Did anyone 35 and older in the Industry Play JAX.... MY guess is YES... what will the world become when MY Grandchildren Get Older and ready to get into Living Life... what do they have to look forward to when they can not even enjoy a simple game of JAX... Hop Scotch. Kick Ball, Hullahoops Even Kick the Can.

The thing that is Missing Mr. Chambers is OUR CHILDREN... In My Case Grandchildren....

you want to look at the Future. Spend a week at an Elementary School THEY NEED YOUR HELP.

you will be lucky if you live the next 20 years I know I will not....

But My Grandchildren will be... so you want to make them Dumber and Let the DEVICE think for them Let the Devises Monitor there every move from Brushing Teeth to Making every Choices for them...

The INTERNET OF EVERYTHING  aka IoE will just Make us all Dumber... make us even Lazier than we are now....

How will this help our kids be Smarter. we need to work on our future OUR KIDS

Matt Adragna

54 yo Grandpa Living in Maine

PS: We all Played Jax with the pretzels until they were all gone... Unfortunatlly they all went back fast to Laptops Iphones and Tablets as soon as they could/


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